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Not sure why you would need civil law as no crime has been committed? The ANPR does not work for BB holders as daughter found out when taking OH to visit a supermarket. A real hassle getting them to cancel the invoice and had to resort to threats. ANPR has numerous drawbacks when it comes to holders of a BB.
When I go into town I usually find on road parking. But a friend has just told me I can use the APNR car parks. He would use these by going to the office each time. But he has just received a sticker which affixes to his badge and he scans this each time.

I have just applied for one myself. It could be the same in your local authority.

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Not sure why you would need civil law as no crime has been committed? The ANPR does not work for BB holders as daughter found out when taking OH to visit a supermarket. A real hassle getting them to cancel the invoice and had to resort to threats. ANPR has numerous drawbacks when it comes to holders of a BB.
ANPR can work well for Blue Badge holders as long as you've pre-registered all car registrations that the holder might travel in - at least it works well in SE Staffordshire!
 
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By coincedence we are visiting people in the south about 30mins drive from Bedford. We offered, yesterday, to collect some medication from Bedford Hospital as the multi-million pound NHS IT system can't send the prescription from the Hospital to the pharmacy which is a 5 minute walk away from where we're staying.

We drove to Bedford, which was like visiting another planet after life on Skye. Got within sight of the hospital and its car parkk but got in the wrong lane and had to go around the block. I'm sure we past the Great Wall of China but maybe it was just the all you can throw up chinese buffet.

On getting back to the hospital we queued in the road outside waiting to get in. Once actually in the car park it was still a queue as folks were waiting for someone to vacate a space. Mrs. V had already got out to go to the pharmacy dept. After about 15 mins someone came out of a space and I went in. In was in about 10cm of water but just clear where my door was.

As its Pay and Display I phoned Mrs. V to see what progress she'd made and was told it could be a 50min wait or more. So, I duly paid and displayed at £4 for 2 hours. Got out of the car to go and meet her and guess what - she was just coming out complete with medication. £4 for about 5 mins use of an actual parking space.

As we left I offered the ticket to the person eager to take my place - no reg number on it. For some reason they said no.
You should have contacted myself, I would have rented you a parking slot on my driveway 20 minutes away.
I went to Bedford hospital for a Blood test , paid the £4 for parking, only to be told it was at Bedford North, 20 minutes drive across the town.
Grrrrr
 
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When I go into town I usually find on road parking. But a friend has just told me I can use the APNR car parks. He would use these by going to the office each time. But he has just received a sticker which affixes to his badge and he scans this each time.

I have just applied for one myself. It could be the same in your local authority.

John
However there should be no need to do this if you had a BB. It is the way the PPC is making extra money by not having someone patrolling around.

I have been told that even if the car is registered with disabled VED they still issue the ticket even though the BB was displayed. This then stresses out the person with the BB who has to resolve the issue. Not fair to that person.

If using a pay council park to save the hassle we pay for our parking as less stressful and cost is normally under £3 for a 2 hour stay.
 
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However there should be no need to do this if you had a BB. It is the way the PPC is making extra money by not having someone patrolling around.

I have been told that even if the car is registered with disabled VED they still issue the ticket even though the BB was displayed. This then stresses out the person with the BB who has to resolve the issue. Not fair to that person.

If using a pay council park to save the hassle we pay for our parking as less stressful and cost is normally under £3 for a 2 hour stay.
There's a government edict that hospital parking should be free-of-charge to Blue Badge holders (and some other groups) but it's up to the hospital and their parking contractor how that's implemented.

We get sent to various hospital trusts for different conditions - the Derby & Burton NHS Trust operates an ANPR-based system so simply registering my car, and my familys, I get free parking - in contrast the Birmingham NHS Trust requires the entry ticket to be presented at the office to allow exit without charge.

Like any car park, the T&Cs need reading.
 
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There's a government edict that hospital parking should be free-of-charge to Blue Badge holders (and some other groups) but it's up to the hospital and their parking contractor how that's implemented.

We get sent to various hospital trusts for different conditions - the Derby & Burton NHS Trust operates an ANPR-based system so simply registering my car, and my familys, I get free parking - in contrast the Birmingham NHS Trust requires the entry ticket to be presented at the office to allow exit without charge.

Like any car park, the T&Cs need reading.
However on some occasions one does not have the time or opportunity to read unenforceable T&CS in a hospital car park managed by a PPC. Unfortunately I have been in the situation previously and over stayed the proverbial 3 hours. Strangely I never got a ticket probably due to covid.
 
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On a side note and not to do with hospital parking, yesterday late afternoon there was an accident on the M5 resulting in roads in Worcester becoming grid locked as traffic was diverted.

It was taking people over 2 hours to leave the hospital car park. Obviously ambulances had great difficulty transversing the city to get to the hospital. Daughter did not get home till late last night as could not get out of Worcester.
 
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However on some occasions one does not have the time or opportunity to read unenforceable T&CS in a hospital car park managed by a PPC. Unfortunately I have been in the situation previously and over stayed the proverbial 3 hours. Strangely I never got a ticket probably due to covid.
Of course T&Cs are enforceable - a hospital car park is private property so they can impose T&Cs.

The 3 hour limit, applicable to Blue Badges in England & Wales (no time limit in Scotland) only applies to on-road parking, ie on the public road network - on private property or council car parks then the T&C apply.
 
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Of course T&Cs are enforceable - a hospital car park is private property so they can impose T&Cs.

The 3 hour limit, applicable to Blue Badges in England & Wales (no time limit in Scotland) only applies to on-road parking, ie on the public road network - on private property or council car parks then the T&C apply.
You need to agree to the T&Cs for them to be enforceable. PPCs like to imposed a 3 hour limit for BB holders, but again unenforceable. Best is never to push your luck and sue common sense.
 
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You need to agree to the T&Cs for them to be enforceable. PPCs like to imposed a 3 hour limit for BB holders, but again unenforceable. Best is never to push your luck and sue common sense.
By parking on the private land you have accepted the terms and conditions.

“When you enter a car park, you are entering a legally binding contract and by parking there, you are agreeing to abide by the terms and conditions. If a motorist has breached those terms, by say staying beyond their purchased time, a parking operator will have reasonable cause to request the registered keeper details of the vehicle from the DVLA and issue a PCN. Contrary to Penalty Charge Notices issued by a council, PCNs are not issued under statutory authority and should not be considered a ‘fine’. They are instead issued due to a breach of contract and are enforceable under contract law, potentially leading to County Court proceedings if they remain unpaid.”
 
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A few years ago I parked in a large car park using the blue badge area. The car park was less the 20% full. I simply forgot to put my badge in the windscreen. I got a ticket.

People tell me they would not be able to enforce it. But I payed the £80 . The T&C’s were clearly posted and it was clearly me that failed to follow them.

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A few years ago I parked in a large car park using the blue badge area. The car park was less the 20% full. I simply forgot to put my badge in the windscreen. I got a ticket.

People tell me they would not be able to enforce it. But I payed the £80 . The T&C’s were clearly posted and it was clearly me that failed to follow them.

John
Hope you weren’t cheated John? Most of these rogues offer a pretty good discount if the charge is paid within,7 days.
 

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