Nothing wrong with that as that is using common sense! Pity ANPR does not work that way on many car parks.
When I go into town I usually find on road parking. But a friend has just told me I can use the APNR car parks. He would use these by going to the office each time. But he has just received a sticker which affixes to his badge and he scans this each time.
I have just applied for one myself. It could be the same in your local authority.
John
I have no BB.
At the Gloucester Royal and Great Western Hospital Swindon , ironically it is easier to find an empty non BB space !
At the Gloucester Royal and Great Western Hospital Swindon , ironically it is easier to find an empty non BB space !
ANPR can work well for Blue Badge holders as long as you've pre-registered all car registrations that the holder might travel in - at least it works well in SE Staffordshire!
You should have contacted myself, I would have rented you a parking slot on my driveway 20 minutes away.
I went to Bedford hospital for a Blood test , paid the £4 for parking, only to be told it was at Bedford North, 20 minutes drive across the town.
Grrrrr
However there should be no need to do this if you had a BB. It is the way the PPC is making extra money by not having someone patrolling around.
I have been told that even if the car is registered with disabled VED they still issue the ticket even though the BB was displayed. This then stresses out the person with the BB who has to resolve the issue. Not fair to that person.
If using a pay council park to save the hassle we pay for our parking as less stressful and cost is normally under £3 for a 2 hour stay.
There's a government edict that hospital parking should be free-of-charge to Blue Badge holders (and some other groups) but it's up to the hospital and their parking contractor how that's implemented.
We get sent to various hospital trusts for different conditions - the Derby & Burton NHS Trust operates an ANPR-based system so simply registering my car, and my familys, I get free parking - in contrast the Birmingham NHS Trust requires the entry ticket to be presented at the office to allow exit without charge.
Like any car park, the T&Cs need reading.
However on some occasions one does not have the time or opportunity to read unenforceable T&CS in a hospital car park managed by a PPC. Unfortunately I have been in the situation previously and over stayed the proverbial 3 hours. Strangely I never got a ticket probably due to covid.
On a side note and not to do with hospital parking, yesterday late afternoon there was an accident on the M5 resulting in roads in Worcester becoming grid locked as traffic was diverted.
It was taking people over 2 hours to leave the hospital car park. Obviously ambulances had great difficulty transversing the city to get to the hospital. Daughter did not get home till late last night as could not get out of Worcester.
It was taking people over 2 hours to leave the hospital car park. Obviously ambulances had great difficulty transversing the city to get to the hospital. Daughter did not get home till late last night as could not get out of Worcester.
Of course T&Cs are enforceable - a hospital car park is private property so they can impose T&Cs.
The 3 hour limit, applicable to Blue Badges in England & Wales (no time limit in Scotland) only applies to on-road parking, ie on the public road network - on private property or council car parks then the T&C apply.
You need to agree to the T&Cs for them to be enforceable. PPCs like to imposed a 3 hour limit for BB holders, but again unenforceable. Best is never to push your luck and sue common sense.
By parking on the private land you have accepted the terms and conditions.
“When you enter a car park, you are entering a legally binding contract and by parking there, you are agreeing to abide by the terms and conditions. If a motorist has breached those terms, by say staying beyond their purchased time, a parking operator will have reasonable cause to request the registered keeper details of the vehicle from the DVLA and issue a PCN. Contrary to Penalty Charge Notices issued by a council, PCNs are not issued under statutory authority and should not be considered a ‘fine’. They are instead issued due to a breach of contract and are enforceable under contract law, potentially leading to County Court proceedings if they remain unpaid.”
A few years ago I parked in a large car park using the blue badge area. The car park was less the 20% full. I simply forgot to put my badge in the windscreen. I got a ticket.
People tell me they would not be able to enforce it. But I payed the £80 . The T&C’s were clearly posted and it was clearly me that failed to follow them.
John
People tell me they would not be able to enforce it. But I payed the £80 . The T&C’s were clearly posted and it was clearly me that failed to follow them.
John
Hope you weren’t cheated John? Most of these rogues offer a pretty good discount if the charge is paid within,7 days.
It would have been worth appealing the ticket - I've done that twice, once forgetting to display and once showing the wrong side - in both cases a polite appeal accepting the error was mine and giving full badge details resulted in the tickets being withdrawn - although on another occasion I got a ticket as I didn't bother to read the T&C as Blue Badges holders were still chargeable - so I paid up!
I am sorry, but they need to prove that you read and agreed to their T&Cs. However if are you happy to be ripped off by a PPCs for an easier life then so be it as no skin off my nose. LOL!
I guess I’d better tell Citizens Advice that they are giving misleading information. The Scottish one tells a similar tale too. Perhaps if it gets as far as a court you might have difficulty convincing them that you weren’t aware of any terms and conditions. Civil cases are all based on probability and you might have an equally difficult job convincing them of your ignorance of parking T&C.
I really don’t get why you think I’m being ripped off by PPCs. I just pay the parking fee, make sure I’m within the lines and don’t overstay. Where’s the rip off?
I never said either CAB have got it wrong, but why are so many people able to successfully challenge these invoices issued by a PPC and win?
As said your choice and by the way not parking related, but CAB got it horribly wrong for us by giving us totally incorrect advice which may have cost us thousands of pounds. Luckily we got the correct advice from Which Legal Services.
It is up to the individual to decide what they should do to avoid hassles.
This might explain why few ever get to court. I once got hassled by debt collectors for a £5 payment to Timex who had replaced a failed travel clock which should have been gratis. What hassle that kicked up. I didn’t pay anyway.
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If the signs showing the T&C aren't readily visibly then that's a defence if they take you to court for non-payment - but not if you simply didn't read them or read them, didn't agree but parked there anyway.
NHS trusts can't afford to provide totally free car parks on their land - so they sub-contract to a PPC and take a portion of the income - penalty charges are high to deter users from trying to freeload.
The car parks at hospitals have never been free since the year dot as it was the taxpayer that paid for the car parks and now we are having to pay for them again except that this "tax" ends up in the pockets of a PPC!
It might be interesting if you did a Freedom Of Information request to your local NHS Trust to find out how much of the parking income they receive - it doesn't all go to the PPC.The car parks at hospitals have never been free since the year dot as it was the taxpayer that paid for the car parks and now we are having to pay for them again except that this "tax" ends up in the pockets of a PPC!
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