Apologies if you've been asked this before but I'm just trying to ensure you're not wasting money unnecessarily.
How do you know your router is at fault?
How do you know your router is at fault?
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I don't which is why I have unplugged the cheapie UPS unit, just in case that is causing the router to shut down. Unfortunately that could take days before I will really know.
I have since found that that our area will be going full fibre sometime next year so probably best to put everything on hold. It was only by chance I found out from Openreach as I did not think we would ever get FTTP for many years living in a rural village.
Not sure if you can use a FTTC modem/ router for FTTP if we do get FTTP. Do they make routers that can be used for either FTTC or FTTP?
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We had FTTP. Now we have fibre to the home. Promised 1000 mbps. But speed varries between 200 and 450 with lots of excuses from the supplier. But to test properly I need a 1gb wired network. Occasionally I need to reboot to get the best.
But am I better off over the FTTP, no. Except for escaping Virgin.
My connection provides all we need and more. If I take up gaming I may not be so complacent.
John
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We are finding Virgin to be quite fragile and have lost two sets of recordings in 6 months. Problem is any issues are inconsistent so difficult to diagnose even using Virgins own guidance. The other day the remote didn’t function at all well. Changed the batteries and re -paired it with the box. Still no success, so I used my phone as a remote which worked perfectly. In the meantime I had ordered a new FOC remote from Virgin. Then blow me two days I decided to give the remote another try and since then everything has worked and is stable. Quite frustrating.
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I was with them for years, found the kit and technicians to be fine. But hated the so called customer service.
John
I presume that by the router shutting down you mean it gets switched off...loses power. So your right to remove the UPS to see if that's a problem
As for routers that can handle both FTTC and FTTP, I doubt it but then there are many different makes around.
FTTH... Fibre To Home and FTTP....Fibre to Premises are the same thing. Fibre all the way.
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There are. Almost any 3rd party router that has an embedded FTTC modem (VDSL2+) is likely to also have the ability to support FTTP using one of its local ethernet ports as an uplink. TP-link and Netgear both fall in this category.
Having said that, FTTC routers (VDSL2+) are rather less common these days as almost all new broadband services are supported using PON (packet optical network) with an Ethernet handoff (usually Gigabit Ethernet) on the ONT (Optical network terminator) in the home. Network vendors are concentrating on Ethernet devices as they are cheaper and more ubiquitous.
What's the downside of just using the free router supplied by the network provider as part of the initial contract ?
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None at all if the device does everything you want and works fine.
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They generally work, but are almost outdated by the time they are delivered. Wifi 6 has been around for quite a long time and wifi 7 since 2023. Our 6 month old router is wifi 5 and is the second router supplied by provider as the first one went faulty after about 6 months and kept dropping out.
If you were experiencing drop outs this could well be a fault on the copper/ali lines or even in the cabinet. We used to get frequent drop outs on the old wired system.
Its been known for BT engineers to fix an intermittent or poor quality line by swapping your lines for someone elses. Eventually what goes around comes around - again.
Its been known for BT engineers to fix an intermittent or poor quality line by swapping your lines for someone elses. Eventually what goes around comes around - again.
Having looked at the box, it seems our year-old free router from Vodafone is Wifi 6 and works fine with our 70 Mbps FTTC - but then we're only connecting a desktop PC, a laptop PC, 2 phones and the TV - and never all at the same time.
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In this case the engineer decided it was the box at fault.
All our devices are Wifi 6 including the TVs.
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Our devices tv included are wifi6 but my iPad is positively ancient and I believe it’s WiFi 5, but it makes no difference at all to my usage of it. It’s not something that I can get too worked up about. But what does irk me is that 4G isn’t that good in far too many areas. That’s where I would prefer to see improvements. Fat chance.
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Must be newer devices than mine, laptop, 2 tablets, TV, Chromecast, Roku and one phone aren't. 4k Fire stick, other TV and my phone are. Can't see the point in replacing them as they all get the full speed that the router can receive from outside 200+Mbps.
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The TVs are about 4-5 years old. The tablet, laptop and phones are newer, but still a couple fo years old. Firestick is several months old. As said WiFi 6 has been around for some time.
Like computers 30 years ago, it's an expensive never-ending task trying to keep up with the latest "standard" in interconnected devices - most people should question the value in doing so.
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For some value is not a concern, but convenience and keeping up with the lates technology is a concern. The old TVs that we had were about 15 - 20 years old from when the first flat screens were marketed. With computers, not much of a choice as generally after several years the technology is no longer supported and you have no option except to upgrade plus the fact that it has become very slow and is probe to breakdowns.
The "latest technology" is just marketing pressure to keep spending money - maybe some people are jinxed and everything they buy is "prone" to breakdowns.
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Your TVs must be some of the first with WiFi 6 as it only came on general release in 2020.
My 2020 TV was only WiFi 5, even my 2025 Samsung UHD 4K all singing and dancing TV is only WiFi 5 😟
Not that it makes a difference to the usable speed.
Cable is far superior 🫣
If anyone is wondering why I replaced a perfectly good 5 year old TV
I managed to break the screen whilst moving it😒
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This morning for some reason my laptop would not connect to the router using wifi. Tablet and phones no issue. I uninstalled the network adaptor, turned off laptop, left for a couple of minutes and restarted. Adaptor re-installed however still will not connect to router wifi.
I then got the bright idea to try the phone mobile hotspot and the laptop connects to the phone no issue. Very slow Internet, but it works.
The tablet, phones, TVs connect the router wifi no issue. Laptop connects to wifi using hotspot. Laptop connects using ethernet cable.
I then got the bright idea to try the phone mobile hotspot and the laptop connects to the phone no issue. Very slow Internet, but it works.
The tablet, phones, TVs connect the router wifi no issue. Laptop connects to wifi using hotspot. Laptop connects using ethernet cable.
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I have to admit that I did a search and the search came up with the answers stating wifi 6 as I have no idea how to access the WiFi details on any of the TVs. However checking on the Samsung website you are correct and they are only wifi5. Our main TV is connected by ethernet cable and also the Freesat box.
The Samsungs use WiFi when connecting to a streaming app, but for normal TV they are connected using HDMI from Freesat box..
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