Keeping to 20 mph

[otherclive]

Yesterday we spent a day in Wales where most towns and villages are a 20 mph limit. I turned on intelligent speed control as I entered the first 20 mph zone. Surprisingly it worked very well at that low speed. That was until I arrived at stretches where there were cars parked on the nearside verges, and also in the road on the opposite side. Well the poor old radar was all over the place dropping speed and gently applying brakes then gently accelerating again, before repeating the process. I turned it off and went back to right foot control. Which is a pity as trying to hold 20 mph seems to hack off following drivers, Wheras on speed control it seems to make it much easier for me to ignore them😂

 

[Kevin M]

A lot of the limits are being reset to 30mins now, councils spending big amounts on new signage.

 

[JTQ]

"trying to hold 20 mph seems to hack off following drivers"

Exactly my experience.

IMO 20mph is right and feels natural in certain limited places but so anti natural to me along with evidently so many when blindly applied throughout extended lengths in most villages.

Fortunately from that point of view we now rarely get there, shame as in many ways a lovely place to take a break.

 

[GaryB]

I work in Wrexham most weeks and have noticed some of the more rural 20's have reverted to 30 but we went to Cardiff on Saturday and 20mph still seemed dominant in a lot of areas. Fortunately my cruise control works well at 20 but I still get the more impatient locals overtaking!

 

[otherclive]

A lot of the limits are being reset to 30mins now, councils spending big amounts on new signage.

That wasn’t my experience in south Wales yesterday, but sooner the better.

 

[otherclive]

Exactly my experience.

IMO 20mph is right and feels natural in certain limited places but so anti natural to me along with evidently so many when blindly applied throughout extended lengths in most villages.

Fortunately from that point of view we now rarely get there, shame as in many ways a lovely place to take a break.

Three more breaks booked in September, south, mid and west Wales, 12 nights in all. Don’t know why we didn’t retire there, beats the southernmost county across the Bristol Channel..

 

[GUMPY]

The Yeti has the old style cruise control, works fine, just set and forget.

 

[otherclive]

I work in Wrexham most weeks and have noticed some of the more rural 20's have reverted to 30 but we went to Cardiff on Saturday and 20mph still seemed dominant in a lot of areas. Fortunately my cruise control works well at 20 but I still get the more impatient locals overtaking!

My radar cruise control does work well in 20 mph zones where we live but yesterday even with its detection distance reduced the proximity to parked cars combined with oncoming traffic threw it low balls. Need to dive in to menus to see if the radar input can be turned off. Although more to life than menu diving! It works ace on motorways and A roads and lets me periodically exercise my legs on journeys.

 

[Kevin M]

That wasn’t my experience in south Wales yesterday, but sooner the better.

This is North Wales (local to where I live), not sure on other parts.

 

[Boxerman]

Exactly my experience.

IMO 20mph is right and feels natural in certain limited places but so anti natural to me along with evidently so many when blindly applied throughout extended lengths in most villages.

Fortunately from that point of view we now rarely get there, shame as in many ways a lovely place to take a break.

This may be of interest research by European testers has concluded that if you

Yesterday we spent a day in Wales where most towns and villages are a 20 mph limit. I turned on intelligent speed control as I entered the first 20 mph zone. Surprisingly it worked very well at that low speed. That was until I arrived at stretches where there were cars parked on the nearside verges, and also in the road on the opposite side. Well the poor old radar was all over the place dropping speed and gently applying brakes then gently accelerating again, before repeating the process. I turned it off and went back to right foot control. Which is a pity as trying to hold 20 mph seems to hack off following drivers, Wheras on speed control it seems to make it much easier for me to ignore them😂

It’s been researched and now confirmed the benefit of 20mph outways the frustration in my opinion , there is a 75% reduction in child fatalities in areas with 20mph limits, compared to areas with no change , the time difference over an average daily school run - commute was only an extra 4 mins, so it seems an obvious change to make even if it is unpopular, I remember the uproar when seat belts were mandated my Dan and his mates were considering storming Parliament 🤔

 

[JTQ]

This may be of interest research by European testers has concluded that if you

As I said its IMO "right" in some places and to me and I expect others natural, even in 30 mph zones to drive at only 20mph.
My issue comes where it is to me and clearly others unduly slow. My examples would include where there aren't dwellings and the road is straight wide and affording good visibility and possibly includes one or both footways.
In essence having a blanket rule rather than one targeted at where its needed, which could well be more respected and from that possibly more effective.

 

[Boxerman]

Yes I can’t disagree with you there in the report I read it reduced noise and pollution by a significant amount also regards D