Keeping to 20 mph

[otherclive]

It was in a loan UX. When I stated it braked harshly it was probably a bit of an exaggeration, but the braking is quite aggressive. In the Yaris if the RSA is activated and you set the CC to 30mph and then enter a 60mph zone without cancelling the CC, accelerate to 60mph, if you lift your foot off the accelerator the car will brake down to 30mph as quick as possible. These are things that you find out with use of the car.

First time I came across cruise control was in the US with a hire Chrysler K car. I took it for a few days to do the Skykine Drive and Shenandoah parks. In those days the US had a low national speed limit. Anyway I set it at 50 mph on the Skyline Drive which is a nice flowing two lane road with fabulous scenery. I learnt very quickly that looking at the view whilst the car attempts even a gentle bend at its pre set 50 mph challenges a Chrysler K cars tyre adhesion almost beyond its limits. 🙈

 

[otherclive]

Not ACC, but automatic braking and lane departure which both come on automatically when starting the car. You do not need the CC to be switched on for it to work. I dislike these system as they take away driver control. This is the 21st century in case you have forgotten. LOL!

My lane departure/assist has a switch on the steering wheel that can be easily switched to OFF which I do if on some country lanes. But in other roads I can easily turn myself off from the occasional squark as I move outwards on left handers and vice versa. Clearly there should be an input to the settings for ex motor cyclists. Similarly I don’t have blind spot warning, but fortunately my neck still rotates. 🙈

 

[Buckman]

My lane departure has a switch on the steering wheel that can be easily switched to OFF which I do if on some country lanes.

On the Lexus, it can be switched off permanently in the sub menu. If you do need it for whatever reason, then flick it on with the switch on the steering wheel. Your RAV4 will have the same option. Next time you start the car, it will be switched off until you activate it.

 

[RogerL]

Yep…..But ACC is still far, far superior. 👍

You may think it's better - but try quantifying "far, far".

 

[borderbilly]

What's a motorway 🛣 none in my neck of the woods 🪵

 

[otherclive]

What's a motorway 🛣 none in my neck of the woods 🪵

Ask you MP to lobby for an increase in the Barnett formula. On the other hand count your blessings.

 

[Devonisheaven]

Aren't Lane departure and Lane assist basically the same thing? If I could find out how to permanently disable either in the Yaris I would be very happy. At least in the Lexus I have to activate it and having tried it once, no interest in using it again. I prefer to be in control of the car and not the car in control as I regard the latter as unsafe and only required by drivers that are "lazy".

Both our cars probably have the ACC, but not sure why it is different to the normal CC. I simply switch on whatever gives me CC and use it.

Oh come on Buckers! This is the 21st century! No, lane departure and lane assist are not the same thing, very different in fact.

Secondly, Active Cruise Control is a world apart from the “Old” Cruise Control. Huge improvement.

The rest of your post, I am sorry to say, is also rather silly. I think you need to do your homework mate, the biggest issue here is ignorance of the tech. Is your car using old tech?

I have clocked up 50 years since passing my test, but am always ready to embrace modern vehicle technology. Certainly would not want to go back ten or fifteen years, cars are far safer now thanks to tech. Let’s not forget the biggest cause of accidents……..Human error.

Give me a modern car any day.

 

[Sam Vimes]

Barnett Formula.

Dualing the A9 has been a controversial topic for years. Now the A96 is coming under scrutiny.

We do have Potholes to spare if anyone wants some.

 

[Devonisheaven]

In my case it was the first time I had tried it off off the motorway. But it wasn’t want a normal urban area just a longish 20 mph stretch between two villages with a few terrace houses on my off side. Clearly it works as intended but manual override is better. Live and learn.

What do you mean by “ Manual override” ?

 

[Devonisheaven]

……. Similarly I don’t have blind spot warning, but fortunately my neck still rotates. 🙈

Oh dear! 🙄

 

[Sam Vimes]

Oh come on Buckers! This is the 21st century! No, lane departure and lane assist are not the same thing, very different in fact.

Secondly, Active Cruise Control is a world apart from the “Old” Cruise Control. Huge improvement.

The rest of your post, I am sorry to say, is also rather silly. I think you need to do your homework mate, the biggest issue here is ignorance of the tech. Is your car using old tech?

I have clocked up 50 years since passing my test, but am always ready to embrace modern vehicle technology. Certainly would not want to go back ten or fifteen years, cars are far safer now thanks to tech. Let’s not forget the biggest cause of accidents……..Human error.

Give me a modern car any day.

Be careful when you refer to 'ignorance of tech' because a good many people have no idea what they have going on in the background and its limitations and become dependent on it.

Just look at all the reports about Self Driving cars causing problems.

I'm with Buckman on this - I want to do the controlling - I don't mind technology checking what I'm doing but not taking over. I chose a car with minimum amount of smarts.

 

[Devonisheaven]

Be careful when you refer to 'ignorance of tech' because a good many people have no idea what they have going on in the background and its limitations and become dependent on it.

Just look at all the reports about Self Driving cars causing problems.

I'm with Buckman on this - I want to do the controlling - I don't mind technology checking what I'm doing but not taking over. I chose a car with minimum amount of smarts.

Good for you. I know what I want out of a car. 👍

 

[otherclive]

What do you mean by “ Manual override” ?

Switch ACC off when not required by road conditions.

And to answer your next question. My neck allows my HEAD to rotate which counters the lack of Blind Spot Warning but after so many years getting an over shoulder view I’d probably still keep doing that.

 

[Devonisheaven]

Anyone here still got winders for the windows, or no power steering, how about servo assisted brakes, not to mention ABS, electric windscreen wipers etc. Not to mention those totally pointless manual gearboxes!

Ah yes, bring back the good old days, they don’t make cars like they used to……….Thank goodness!

 

[Devonisheaven]

Switch ACC off when not required by road conditions.

Well, yes. 🤔

 

[borderbilly]

Anyone here still got winders for the windows, or no power steering, how about servo assisted brakes, not to mention ABS, electric windscreen wipers etc. Not to mention those totally pointless manual gearboxes!

Ah yes, bring back the good old days, they don’t make cars like they used to……….Thank goodness!

I have manual gearbox, a real man's car.

 

[Devonisheaven]

You may think it's better - but try quantifying "far, far".

Don’t think, it simply is. Obviously you have never had a car with it, neither had I until two cars ago, but would not have another car without it now. But if you don’t know…….You don’t know. 🤷. It is a world apart from the “old” CC. But I know I am wasting my time, because you will not accept the technology, but used to it full and correctly, it is simply brilliant.

But hey ho, you obviously know far more than car producers like Ford, Toyota, Mercedes, BMW, Audi, Hyundai, Kia, Citroen, Renault, Vauxhall, Cupar, Honda, Mazda, Nissan, Peugeot…….the list goes on….and on.

 

[Devonisheaven]

I have manual gearbox, a real man's car.

😂🤣🤣😂😂🤣😂🤪🤪, now THAT is funny! 🤣😂🤣🤣😂

 

[otherclive]

Anyone here still got winders for the windows, or no power steering, how about servo assisted brakes, not to mention ABS, electric windscreen wipers etc. Not to mention those totally pointless manual gearboxes!

Ah yes, bring back the good old days, they don’t make cars like they used to……….Thank goodness!

At present manual gearboxes are still available for new cars although the choice is getting more limited as various degrees of electrification are introduced. They do have a purpose in that they allow new drivers to take the Driving Test and the be able to drive manual or automatic cars. Thus giving them a wider choice of first cars to meet their budget and needs.

My first auto was a Volvo 245 GLE estate in the mid 1980s. After that it’s been a variety of autos and manuals. The former being tow cars. I have no issues wrt manual gearboxes but my Superb and XCeed twin clutch autos were “dogs” when it came to tight manoeuvres, such that XCeed was a crunch waiting to happen. No amount of dealer software updates resolved it. Test driving other Kia Ceeds showed similar characteristics. Some other makes also do similar. So not all automatic gearboxes are created equal.

 

[Devonisheaven]

At present manual gearboxes are still available for new cars although the choice is getting more limited as various degrees of electrification are introduced. They do have a purpose in that they allow new drivers to take the Driving Test and the be able to drive manual or automatic cars. Thus giving them a wider choice of first cars to meet their budget and needs.

My first auto was a Volvo 245 GLE estate in the kid 1980s. After that it’s been a variety of autos and manuals. The former being tow cars. I have no issues wrt manual gearboxes but my Superb and XCeed twin clutch autos were “dogs” when it came to tight manoeuvres, such that XCeed was a crunch waiting to happen. No amount of dealer software updates resolved it. Test driving other Kia Ceeds showed similar characteristics. Some other makes also do similar. So not all automatic gearboxes are created equal.

Not all manual gearboxes are created equal either! There were some real dogs out there.

 

[otherclive]

Not all manual gearboxes are created equal either! There were some real dogs out there.

That’s not the point of my post, but you do seem determined to put others down just because their views, actions and choices don’t align with yours.

 

[RogerL]

Don’t think, it simply is. Obviously you have never had a car with it, neither had I until two cars ago, but would not have another car without it now. But if you don’t know…….You don’t know. 🤷. It is a world apart from the “old” CC. But I know I am wasting my time, because you will not accept the technology, but used to it full and correctly, it is simply brilliant.

But hey ho, you obviously know far more than car producers like Ford, Toyota, Mercedes, BMW, Audi, Hyundai, Kia, Citroen, Renault, Vauxhall, Cupar, Honda, Mazda, Nissan, Peugeot…….the list goes on….and on.

In other words, you can't say why - you sound like a salesman trying to persuade me to buy some thing I don't need - that's the point, there's a difference between need and want.

Car makers will always try to create new markets for "must-have" gizmos - that's how they make their profits bigger.

 

[Devonisheaven]

In other words, you can't say why - you sound like a salesman trying to persuade me to buy some thing I don't need - that's the point, there's a difference between need and want.

Car makers will always try to create new markets for "must-have" gizmos - that's how they make their profits bigger.

Do you know how ridiculous you sound! It called progress, certainly isn’t a “gizmo” if you wish to stay in the 90s, then crack on, but don't criticise something you obviously know nothing about, it’s pathetic!

Google it and learn.

 

[Sam Vimes]

Do you know how ridiculous you sound! It called progress, certainly isn’t a “gizmo” if you wish to stay in the 90s, then crack on, but don't criticise something you obviously know nothing about, it’s pathetic!

Google it and learn.

Please do not belittle other peoples points of view. If you continue in this argumentative fashion then you may well face suspension.

 

[Devonisheaven]

Please do not belittle other peoples points of view. If you continue in this argumentative fashion then you may well face suspension.

I have got Hive to control my heating……I suppose that’s rubbish as well!

You are belittling my opinion and point of view, so one rule for you eh!