That’s absolute rubbish. They can be used all year around, but all seasons are probably better for road use as they deal with snow and ice far better than M&S. Yiu can get “ aggressive” all seasons. I use Bridgestone Weather Control.I have for a few years fitted Mud and Snow tyres to my motor all year round. Using CL's seemed a a compromise when they are muddy.
Just read that they should only be used in winter??
Any Ideas?
Tyres marked "M&S" are simply marketed for mud/snow conditions and there's no specific standard for them - in my opinion is best ignored.
Winter tyres are marked with the 3PMSF symbol and meet the specific requirements for winter tyres - all the better All-Season tyres are marked 3PMSF and can be used all year round.
Except for specific conditions in high altitude areas, All-Seasons are well suited to UK climate conditions - I use Vredestein Quatrac Pro.
Nothing - I was trying to make the point that 3PMSF All-Seasons are suitable for all year use in most of the UK although higher altitude areas like the Cairngorms would justify using full winter tyres.What stops 3PMSF All seasons being used in high altitude areas? Hutch used them for his trips to Switzerland.
Since having our car the tyres that are still on are Hankook Venus S1 Evo 2 SUV K117A have given me great service so far
On my previous Jeep GC I had 17" Michelins Latitudes fitted and seem to recall that at about 20k they had plenty of tread still left. Good grip in wet weather. I wanted them on my current Jeep, but not available in 20".I replace my tyres at around the 3mm depth, the original Hankook Ventus K115 done 42k miles. The Knokian Weatherproofs down to 4mm and had done 34k miles, now on the Hankook Ventus S1 Evo2 K117A. Only done 5k miles on those. I do swop tyres front to rear when they are 2mm difference and back again until ready to change again. The Hankook and Knokians start with 8mm of tread.
Annoyingly, for me, the Michelin Latitude Cross don't have the 3PMSF qualification - the Latitude Alpin does but that would mean running summer and winter sets.On my previous Jeep GC I had 17" Michelins Latitudes fitted and seem to recall that at about 20k they had plenty of tread still left. Good grip in wet weather. I wanted them on my current Jeep, but not available in 20".
What is 3PMSF qualification?Annoyingly, for me, the Michelin Latitude Cross don't have the 3PMSF qualification - the Latitude Alpin does but that would mean running summer and winter sets.
Three peaks mountain snowflake symbol. It means that the tyres can legally be used where winter tyres are mandated, even though they may be all seasons. I was surprised when in Poland at the number of cars that had pure winter tyres fitted even in summer.What is 3PMSF qualification?
The Three Peak Mountain Snowflake symbol (3PMSF) is the winter tyre qualification. The link is for commercial vehicles but the information is the same.What is 3PMSF qualification?
Well so far it done 16,000 since newHowever you do not state the mileage they have done. We get about 20000 miles out of our Continentals on the Jeep however I replace the tyres before they get down to the 3mm mark. If left to wear down to legal limit, I probably could get another 10k or more out of them.
Well the front tyre are at 4.5mmNot much wear then?
What’s this thing about The Highlands. The last time I visited the roads had tarmac, a bit narrow in places but lots of liitle lay-byes marked with posts, caravan sites had tarmac or gravel roads and grass or hard pitches. So what’s so different about the Highlands as far as tyres are concerned, compared to other areas of UK or Europe. Scottish mystique?😂Two Sorentos back BF Goodrich All Terrain were great in the mud and grass, but noisy on the road.
Toureg now on Goodyear Eagle F1 Assymetric 5. They work very well in the Highlands😉😉
The A93 gets up to 2200 feet,above the snow line most winters - and like the rain in Scotland, snow is heavy when it does fall, and then it freezes.What’s this thing about The Highlands. The last time I visited the roads had tarmac, a bit narrow in places but lots of liitle lay-byes marked with posts, caravan sites had tarmac or gravel roads and grass or hard pitches. So what’s so different about the Highlands as far as tyres are concerned, compared to other areas of UK or Europe. Scottish mystique?😂
Going back even further, it wasn't uncommon for cars to be fitted with "Town & Country" tyres on their rear axles in rural areas, these had more aggressive tread patterns akin to modern All Terrain tyres.Actually my post was TIC, but even in the 1970 and early 1980s we lived in Dartmoor and there was no such thing as 4wd except for LR and a few quirky cars yet my rwd Marina estate got us to work everyday. Same as my Skoda Estelle dud when we lived in Cumbria. I recall in December 1981 returning from Leicester to Bath in a snow storm such that only M5 lane 3 was passable. On the M4 we made it to the Bath A46 junction but the road into Bath had been closed. Even the mighty snow ploughs were being dug out by JCBs. That same nigh HM’s convoy decided to stop over in a pub at Old Sodbury on account of the conditions.
Despite all of the modern traction aids, 4wd AS tyres if the vehicles in front of you are stuck you won’t be going anywhere fast. And that’s an all to common occurrence these days.
That’s what my Marina estate had fitted. All four wheels.Going back even further, it wasn't uncommon for cars to be fitted with "Town & Country" tyres on their rear axles in rural areas, these had more aggressive tread patterns akin to modern All Terrain tyres.