MTPLM - crikey

[Dustydog]

Been there seen it done it !

MIRO is NOT a legally binding number.

Why it features on the caravan weight plate is not recorded or explained anywhere, ie HMG or the NCC.
MTPLM as quoted on the caravan weight plate is the only number we need to be concerned with to remain legal.

13 years ago this very subject was ragged to death on here by most of us

Plated weights question

Does the plated weights MIRO & MTPLM have any legal standing in law as the MTPLM seems to be a phrase only used in the caravan industry. There is no reference to it in the Road Traffic Act or Construction and Use. Also it seems that the plated weight that VOSA would check is the one on the...

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[Lutz]

Been there seen it done it !

MIRO is NOT a legally binding number.

Why it features on the caravan weight plate is not recorded or explained anywhere, ie HMG or the NCC.
MTPLM as quoted on the caravan weight plate is the only number we need to be concerned with to remain legal.

The statutory weight plate does not show MIRO. If it does, it's not the statutory weight plate.
The statutory weight plate only shows the maximum allowable noseweight, axle weights and MTPLM.

 

[Dustydog]

The statutory weight plate does not show MIRO. If it does, it's not the statutory weight plate.
The statutory weight plate only shows the maximum allowable noseweight, axle weights and MTPLM.

99% of caravanners wouldn’t know where or what the Statutory weight plate is.

If you purchase an MTPLM UPGRADE plate it’s not the statutory one!
Not much hope for the novice🙀

 

[Lutz]

99% of caravanners wouldn’t know where or what the Statutory weight plate is.

If you purchase an MTPLM UPGRADE plate it’s not the statutory one!
Not much hope for the novice🙀

But if the caravan is subjected to a roadside weight check, the values will be checked against what's on the statutory plate.

 

[otherclive]

Can someone perhaps post photos of statutory weight plates so the uninitiated can see what they look like. We regularly see photos of car statutory plates.

From my perspective I’ve had two caravans upgraded One a 2005 Bailey purchased new and upgraded a year later. The other a 2012 Swift upgraded in 2017. The only things I received were a new sticker for the door, and a letter confirming the upgrade linked to the caravan VIN number. No new plate was ever received.

PS here’s an article from PC on plates. It should be good to keep the thread going until tomorrow at least. Whether it helps the OP resolve his payload issue is debatable. His best course of action has been advised longtemps, get the caravan weighed when full to see if it’s over or under MTPLM.

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[Buckman]

The only two things that are legally binding are the axle weight and the MTPLM.
There is no legislation anywhere that ever refers to payload, onky axle and gross weights.

Exactly my point! Please note regarding MIRO I was referring to an increase in MIRO that would affect the stated payload offered by the manufacturer which could be a reason to reject a caravan.

It is up to the individual to makes sure that they are within the axle load of the caravan and not MTPLM which is not I have been told is not officially recognised, but is a guideline by manufacturers. Plus of course they need to be within the maximum gross trailer weight of the towing vehicle.