new driving standards

[cris_408518]

You know I've no beef with 4X4's. As I joined the M3 early this morning the first two 4X4's to rattle past me were Disco's, followed by another doing a crazy weaving on the M25 and yet antother TD5 trying to "undertake" an X5 joining the M40.

Maybe it's this area, but I tend to see more Disco's getting booted than Range Rovers and I also notice quite a few Toyota Amazons that seem to fly along and quite a few Shoguns!

I guess I'm on the road to much and the popularity of the Disco's means they stand out more.

Comment here that 4x4 drivers pootle along gracefuly is not what I see a lot of the time on the motorways.

Male drivers mainly, not taking on the Mondeo reps or the white vans at 85 - 90mph but many over the limit.

 

[cris_408518]

ps. Disco's driven faster tend to be the reddish coloured ones !

 

[Geordie]

Cris,the red ones are fire engines, disco's dont do elegance, but Shoguns do ! lol

 

[Jim.M_5040716]

Hello Jim.M

As it is well over 30 years since I passed my test, my own children are in the process of learning to drive. There is no doubt that the test is more demmanding now than it used to be, but in my view it still fails to cover issues that modern drivers face such as motorway driving and others.

The headline of this thread is "new driving standards", and it is interesting to read that most respondants belive there is room for improvement, though there is debate about the effectiveness of differing methodology.

John

there is no substitute for practise, motorways, how would you train learners to motorway standerd? Once the test is passed legaly you can drive on a motorway next day without any extra tuition, there is as yet no provsion to do so, it is little wonder we have the caos on our roads.

The UK has the best training and testing system in the EC yet we have the worst drivers, how come, It is the human element we have to deal with, every body thinks they are the best ever on the road, if it were so there would be no crashes!!

Jim M

 

[ProfJohnL]

Hello Jim.M

As it is well over 30 years since I passed my test, my own children are in the process of learning to drive. There is no doubt that the test is more demmanding now than it used to be, but in my view it still fails to cover issues that modern drivers face such as motorway driving and others.

The headline of this thread is "new driving standards", and it is interesting to read that most respondants belive there is room for improvement, though there is debate about the effectiveness of differing methodology.

Hi Jim,

Learners are not permitted to drive on motorways, so as the law stands now, they cannot gain motorway experience before the test.

Some other countries have scheme where learners are restricted, but as soon as you pass your test you are then a probationary driver and display a green P.

I suggest the green P would have to be displayed until a second test was passed. During the green P stage the driver could under supervision undertake training for those skills not covered by the normal L test such as motorway driving. (This is similar to the Pass Plus scheme).

Currently the L plate scheme seems to broadly work and the majority of learners abide by the process and reliably display the L plate. Hopefully the P plate would also carry the same level of commitment and honesty.