On or off?

[Dustydog]

Don't count your chickens

Come on .Ever the optomist😜

 

[trevormonty]

It upsets the balance of the whole control panel😢.
But as Roger said what do you expect from a caravan manufacturer ?🙉

Just make sure all switch activate same way eg down ON and label won't matter. This is how switches in most houses work and they aren't mark.

 

[Dustydog]

Just make sure all switch activate same way eg down ON and label won't matter. This is how switches in most houses work and they aren't mark.

Good idea👏I’ll see what the replacements are like first.😉

 

[Sam Vimes]

Just make sure all switch activate same way eg down ON and label won't matter. This is how switches in most houses work andExcep they aren't mark.

Except two or three way switches, the type you find used for upstairs/downstairs lighting. 😉. But then you know when the light is on.

Except for my outside security lights which only come on when they detect something but are controlled by two separate stitches.

 

[ProfJohnL]

In the UK domestic single toggle switches for lights are set up with down for ON but in Canada and the US they set them down for OFF Not sure how other parts of the world set them.

 

[IanB1485]

Can you post a photo ? I've taken lots of switches apart over the years and asProf John says its relatively easy to remove the rocker and turn it 180 degrees and refit the rocker.You will need a couple of watch screwdrivers and a white sheet (to catch the the really small bits if they fall out!!) and a multimeter to test the switch when re-assembled

 

[noggin16460]

In respect of switch marking and despite a lifetime as an engineer I still get confused over the Red/Green indicators on the main circuit breakers in a consumer unit.

Red is On and Green is Off. Can't help thinking that Green is On as in Go.

Not helped by the fact that my consumer unit...installed by an electrician....has two main circuit breakers and each main switch is different. One has to be on Red, the other on Green.

You think you got problems I am colour blind, well, red/green blind and by god it hurts not knowing if it's on or off 🥴
Seriously I have a built in alarm, it's live until proven otherwise, essentially I can test a circuit half a dozen times if working with electric,
Unfortunately it's a family gene thing, grandfather had the colour perception of a dog, brother is red green brown blind, and I'm red green blind.

 

[noggin16460]

Imagine if you were colour blind😜🙀

I am......

 

[RogerL]

You think you got problems I am colour blind, well, red/green blind and by god it hurts not knowing if it's on or off 🥴
Seriously I have a built in alarm, it's live until proven otherwise, essentially I can test a circuit half a dozen times if working with electric,
Unfortunately it's a family gene thing, grandfather had the colour perception of a dog, brother is red green brown blind, and I'm red green blind.

One of my girlfriend's father was red/green colourblind - he found out half way through the Desert Campaingn in WW2 as his job was sticking coloured markers on maps at headquarters. Maybe that's why there was so much to/fro along the coast!

When he later learnt to drive, he had no problem with traffic lights as top was red, bottom was green - or temporary roadworks with coloured stop/go boards as he just read the words but for roadworks with red/green flags he just waited until eberyone else honked!

 

[otherclive]

Except two or three way switches, the type you find used for upstairs/downstairs lighting. 😉. But then you know when the light is on.

Except for my outside security lights which only come on when they detect something but are controlled by two separate stitches.

Plus the two sets of double switches that operate our lounge ceiliing lights from both ends of the lounge, kitchen lights too. 🙈

 

[AndrewAventura]

Plus the two sets of double switches that operate our lounge ceiliing lights from both ends of the lounge, kitchen lights too. 🙈

And switches on consumer units

 

[Dustydog]

Can you post a photo ? I've taken lots of switches apart over the years and asProf John says its relatively easy to remove the rocker and turn it 180 degrees and refit the rocker.You will need a couple of watch screwdrivers and a white sheet (to catch the the really small bits if they fall out!!) and a multimeter to test the switch when re-assembled

Try this. I can take more later showing the bottom and sides

 

[Dustydog]

Five more pics. Bottom with contacts, four sides

 

[ProfJohnL]

Are those the old or new switches? either way (not about the action of the switch) they are in a terrible condition, Is there a reason they are have so many scratches and other marks?

 

[toad a caravan]

DD,check in technical section on a posting I did under"rocker switches" it may be of help..June of 2025,images of similar switch I have in front of me,try a Halfords or similar place,marketed by a company called autobar

 

[Sam Vimes]

Why not stick a label over it?

 

[IanB1485]

thats a standard switch , I have several in stock and have even fixed a few . If you get the smallest of watch screwdriver down the side where the hinge is and gently prise out the rocker , turn it through 180 degrees and reinsert

 

[Mel]

Why not stick a label over it?

Great minds. I said that a few posts back.
Mel

 

[Sam Vimes]

Great minds. I said that a few posts back.
Mel

Sorry Mel...I missed that.

 

[Dustydog]

Are those the old or new switches? either way (not about the action of the switch) they are in a terrible condition, Is there a reason they are have so many scratches and other marks?

Yes. This is an old and brittle one. It took a Herculean effort to get it out of the housing without damaging the housing itself.
Here’s some pics of the new one which seems to go in and out of the housing easily.
Hopefully the correct replacements from Prima Leisure will arrive this week.

 

[Dustydog]

So the new replacements arrived foc this morning. Rubbish! Still the wrong way round!
I’ll try Ian’s method on the old ones and see if it easy to swap the rocker as suggested.

Frankly it’s not a major issue but yet again the very poor attention to detail shown by caravan manufacturers and their suppliers.
Let’s see how good they come apart😉

 

[Dustydog]

Pulled the old one apart per Ian's suggestion. All sprung apart so hard to get back to ground zero.🙀
You need a magnifying glass , fine surgical tweezers and luck to reassemble. Even if I get it back together it may not be correct and could become a potential fire hazard🙀
End result we will live with the wrong orientation 🥲

 

[Dustydog]

PS. I was going to let it go but as a point of principle do you think Bailey should correct the manufacturing error and supply the correct switches? What if this was a gas safety item cross wired?

 

[Dustydog]

This from Prima Leisure is worrying. The switches are simple single pole . It makes no difference which way round you connect the wires . Obvious you may say🙀
No hope fort the caravan industry

Good afternoon

Thank you for your email.

I have checked this with our technical team and they have advised you will need to reverse the position of the wires as you are wiring them and this will make the switch correct.


Kind regards

 

[birdman101]

Well if the technical team do not know hove a single pole switch works what is the hope of them producing a quality caravan