Phone concern?

[JTQ]

Not sure if callers on your previous landline could not get you, that "there has been no problems since", you might have been called to tell you your computer has a problem or even you have been selected for a free BMW😏

 

[RogerL]

Not such a good idea to place the aerial high up for two reasons.
The main reason is that you have to have a downlead to wherever your mi-fi or whatever and at the frequencies being used the losses on the cable are so great you may see no benefit.
The second issue is that given the direct signal is poor if your system is using an aerial located at a high position there is a good chance that the system may hit more than one base station site which could cause system confusion.

The mobile phone system is designed to work when several cell masts are within range !

 

[Woodentop]

We already have a UPS for our router. However it is my understanding whether right or wrong that in event of a power failure, fibre may not work, but copper line will work? I think Roger is suggesting something like a wifi unit that people fit on the roof of their caravan for a better signal?

As long as your router and VoIP interface still has power from your UPS the fibre will continue to work. There is a small box inside that provides an Ethernet presentation and puts power to a small box outside (called the ONT) which is the fibre interface. From your house to the switching centre the fibre route is entirely passive and the switching centre (not a local exchange - it could be 100 miles+ away) will have either big batteries or more likely some sort of generator. Given the centre will be a long way from you the chances of that suffering a power outage at the same time as you can be ignored.

 

[Woodentop]

The mobile phone system is designed to work when several cell masts are within range !

Er, note quite. Your phone will register with one site, but if the signal is below a certain level the system will be constantly looking for your transmission on other masts in the area and will switch over if it decides it is necessary. If there are 'rogue' conditions (such as bad weather or snow) it could result in a lot of site switching which would make calls unusable.

 

[Buckman]

As long as your router and VoIP interface still has power from your UPS the fibre will continue to work. There is a small box inside that provides an Ethernet presentation and puts power to a small box outside (called the ONT) which is the fibre interface. From your house to the switching centre the fibre route is entirely passive and the switching centre (not a local exchange - it could be 100 miles+ away) will have either big batteries or more likely some sort of generator. Given the centre will be a long way from you the chances of that suffering a power outage at the same time as you can be ignored.

I specifically asked the question regarding a power cut with full fibre and was told that it would not work. However they did say that the current hybrid system will still work which is what we have got at present.

I am still musing whether to install VOIP or not. Being a cottage our home is not that big and OH has extremely sharp ears that will put many dogs to shame. Just me that misses calls and other noises. LOL!

 

[JTQ]

Er, note quite. Your phone will register with one site, but if the signal is below a certain level the system will be constantly looking for your transmission on other masts in the area and will switch over if it decides it is necessary. If there are 'rogue' conditions (such as bad weather or snow) it could result in a lot of site switching which would make calls unusable.

The OP I took from post one has copper house, fibre to the cabinet, does your comment hold for them?

 

[Buckman]

The OP I took from post one has copper house, fibre to the cabinet, does your comment hold for them?

Not sure where that comes into it as a mobile is not reliant on either copper or fibre connections?

 

[Woodentop]

Not sure where that comes into it as a mobile is not reliant on either copper or fibre connections?

Definition of mobile? Are we talking a smartphone that you can use all over the country and beyond - which is what I was talking about because of the references to 'masts' - or a DECT domestic walkiphone which is a whole different ball game?

 

[Buckman]

Definition of mobile? Are we talking a smartphone that you can use all over the country and beyond - which is what I was talking about because of the references to 'masts' - or a DECT domestic walkiphone which is a whole different ball game?

Smartphone which is what I understood you to be talking about.

 

[JTQ]

Not sure where that comes into it as a mobile is not reliant on either copper or fibre connections?

As I identified, post number 1.

 

[Sam Vimes]

Not sure where that comes into it as a mobile is not reliant on either copper or fibre connections?

If its a mobile that's using Wifi Calling then its dependent on the copper of fibre broadband working when in this mode.

 

[RogerL]

If its a mobile that's using Wifi Calling then its dependent on the copper of fibre broadband working when in this mode.

But a mobile phone using Wifi calling automatically switches back to airwave connection if the Wifi isn't available for any reason - so not actually dependent on the copper/fibre connection.

 

[Sam Vimes]

But a mobile phone using Wifi calling automatically switches back to airwave connection if the Wifi isn't available for any reason - so not actually dependent on the copper/fibre connection.

I did specifically write that if the the phone was working in WiFi Calling mode then it is dependant on the copper/fibre broadband.

On some phones and networks WiFi Calling will have presidence in place of the over the air signal.

Some phones and networks switch to WiFi Calling when the over the air signal is too low.

 

[Hutch]

I did specifically write that if the the phone was working in WiFi Calling mode then it is dependant on the copper/fibre broadband.

On some phones and networks WiFi Calling will have presidence in place of the over the air signal.

Some phones and networks switch to WiFi Calling when the over the air signal is too low.

My ID switches between WiFi and mast signal, when low, which at the moment is quite often.