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Eddie

Let's face it. Their outfits hardly do anyone any favours. Look at the colour of the gloves for a start.

Those high viz jackets could be re-designed in black for instance, with a nice fur trim and possibly matching hat.

Who wants to wear steel toe caps anyway? No, I think if they re-vamped the outfits, brought in a good line in footwear, they'd have women bombarding them with applications for jobs.

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Eddie

Let's face it. Their outfits hardly do anyone any favours. Look at the colour of the gloves for a start.

Those high viz jackets could be re-designed in black for instance, with a nice fur trim and possibly matching hat.

Who wants to wear steel toe caps anyway? No, I think if they re-vamped the outfits, brought in a good line in footwear, they'd have women bombarding them with applications for jobs.

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Yea! your right.

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Apart from giving us a clue that you milked camels in North Africa you haven't told us what you have contributed to society Frank or where you put yourself in danger. All we have seen is you boasting where you were earning
 
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This topic is starting to go the way of so many, totally off at a tangent, and introducing more and more contentious comments and statements.

Some parts of postings will be edited as they are totally without foundation and plainly made to provoke a certain kind of response.

Further deliberate attempts to turn this into a personal insult match again will result in the whole thread being removed.
 
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Apart from giving us a clue that you milked camels in North Africa you haven't told us what you have contributed to society

See that *edited* you put in your car every now and again, fuel!! Well I helped find it and extract it. From some real *edited*places in this world. That's what I feel I did for you, mind you it did make me a very wealth individual in the process ( pun that you won't get ).
 
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Having read the comments made on this particular posting I must give my full support to the Moderators for the work they do and the rubbish they have to read prior to making a decision whether to delete or not. It is comments as made above which I am sure Navman was obliged to make his posting regarding insults thrown at his wife by infiltrators. The difference here is that these comments are being made by members of the forum against each other. For goodness sake cannot we all behave as mature adults and let the forum run as a useful enlighening piece of work without the insults.
 
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This topic is starting to go the way of so many, totally off at a tangent, and introducing more and more contentious comments and statements.

Some parts of postings will be edited as they are totally without foundation and plainly made to provoke a certain kind of response.

Further deliberate attempts to turn this into a personal insult match again will result in the whole thread being removed.
Please don't forget that Frank has ordered you not to edit his postings.
 
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Having spent the last half an hour trying to remove some of the worst postings or parts of I have had enough.

As one person seems intent on creating pointless argumets, Frank has had his account suspended for 24 hours
 
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Although I have no axe to grind with any individual I am glad that a stand has been made by the moderator and that the contributers to this forum will now see that the mods are there for a purpose and that they will not be messed around. Good on you Mr. Mod for coming down on the contributers and setting an example - sorry Frank if you have suffered accordingly - this posting is by no means aimed at you as an individual but at contributers in general.
 
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Having spent the last half an hour trying to remove some of the worst postings or parts of I have had enough.

As one person seems intent on creating pointless argumets, Frank has had his account suspended for 24 hours
Thank you Moddy 2. I should really ignore him but I can't sit hby and see him running down others and accusing people of things he has no knowledge or proof about. There are no nurses on the forum to stand up for themselves and the caring job they do.
 
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Lord Braykewynde

My better half has been a nurse for as long as I have known her (and that is a lot of years). She doesnt contribute to the forum but perhaps I can speak on her behalf.

It appears to me that the Health Service has been afflicted withe the same problems as the Police, Prison service and many other public sector professions....Too many managers, not enough workers. One example I can think of at the hospital my wife used to work in..... the 'management decided to move wards around, so they remove beds from one ward, spend thousands doing it up, move equipment from another ward into the first, spend more thousands doing up the now empty ward just to move the equipment from the first ward into the second. Result?...wards have changed number and cost thousands of pounds!!!!!
 
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Posting from Scotch Lad, retrieved from Just Retired and put where he intended:

1 Sep 2007 11:45 AM I don't wish to create any slanging match regarding Unions, I recognise that in certain cases they can be beneficial. I also fully support the principles on which they were founded, namely to protect the rights of workers.

However, where I may offer disagreement is in the fact that in many of the last 40 years Unions have done more harm than good. Closed shops, restrictive practices, blackmailing of the general public, they have done it all. Yes, there have been many cases of workers getting the full pensions to which they were entitled, but there have also been instances where the negative approach by Unions to a failing Company, have reduced the final payout offered to the workers. The Union bosses in the meantime walked away with their full salaries intact.

I did work for 4 years in the public sector, and of course was 'encouraged' and I use the word very loosely, to join the Union. I refused as I did not feel that their ideas matched my own , and I felt that I should retain a personal choice. This was in the time when it had only just been made law that mandatory joining was no longer required, much to the Unions displeasure.

For various reasons I swopped to the private sector and from then on, never had any contact with Unions. I felt that I had the freedom to negotiate my own salary package depending on the personal worth I felt I gave to my employers. If things went wrong and I was made redundant (3 times) then well, it was back to the drawing board and start again. However, each time the redundancy package I received was more than I would have received under a Union negotiated deal. Some may say that was due to the fact I kept 'quiet' and possibly true. But when you have kids and a mortgage I took the best deal I could get.

I think what has really 'soured' my opinion of Unions is the way they entered politics in the 60's and 70's and tried to be unelected leaders of the country. That was outside their remit and merely progressed the careers of a few sad officials. That led to the 'Maggie' era when the pendulum swung probably too much the other way.

The other factor nowadays is globalisation. The public sector is probably the only instance left where a Union can sit down face to face with employers. Therefore they can bring more pressure to bear when their actions can possibly directly affect the constituents of the MPs sitting opposite. If the boardroom is in another country the result is more likely to be acceleration of the plans to move the operation to another country and pick up a relocation bonus from the new country.

The original Post regarding the Prison Officers action is valid, but it must viewed that their action reflects a general failure of expansion of the prison capacity despite a rapid increase in prison population, due to many reasons, and that the salary part of it is just a small factor. Again, the root cause should be addressed not just a 'patch' by paying more money out of the public purse, or as I mentioned previously, there will be a knock on effect and we will all end up paying more taxes.
 
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Thank you Mod. Although what confused me was the last posts in 'Just Retired' were in fact discussing Unions and I was following that to a certain extent. I agree the boundaries have become blurred, and old age on my part
 
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Just want to say THANKYOU to Moderator for suspending the individuals account for 24hrs.

I very often find that persons postings to be offensive and clearly intended to stir up arguments and inflame things. Often also appearing to speak from a position of little knowledge.

Being very new to the world of caravanning I gain a lot from this forum and can do without his "attitude".

Thanks again.

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Apart from giving us a clue that you milked camels in North Africa you haven't told us what you have contributed to society

See that *edited* you put in your car every now and again, fuel!! Well I helped find it and extract it. From some real *edited*places in this world. That's what I feel I did for you, mind you it did make me a very wealth individual in the process ( pun that you won't get ).
 
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The subsequent postings by Giovanni, and the replies, have been deleted.

They were absolutely nothing to do with the original posting subject and were designed to inflame other users and provoke heated responses.

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