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Dexter1

Mar 14, 2008
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Hey Euro,

It's not a case of dismissing any anecdotal owners experiences, just a reminder to take a balanced view of these things. Any internet search will throw up dissatisfied customers for any product whatsoever. Even if abroad I would rely on my UK dealer (and international warranty) for advice and to help make contact with the area network for assistance.

You have obviously had some bad experiences and therefore a tainted view which we need to accept, please also accept the alternative views of others with different experiences.

I'm sure Robin (the OP) will continue to enjoy his new purchase, as I have mine - 45000 problem free miles in 30 months.
 
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NigelHutson

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Yes, and before all go banging on about the reliability of other marques, I wouldn't call a catastrophic engine failure on a three month old Kia Sorento in the South of France reliable! That's what happened to a work colleague and friend of mine three years ago.

I do accept that LR do need to get their act together in many respects. I have a Discovery 3 that I could hardly call totally trouble free, but the problem at the moment seems to be that many things are on "back order".

Having driven countless vehicle of this type, in my opnion there's nothing that gets close in terms of all round ability, and would I swap for a different 4X4? Probably not knowing what they're like, but that's my choice. Would I have another LR product? Don't know is the honest answer.

To ballance the argument, my father had a 2002 Freelander Td4 auto (from new), which needed a new alternator in February 2009. That wasn pretty good by anyone's standards. He's now got a new Freelander 2, which so far has been brilliant in the 7 months he's had it. Early days, but over 7 years and one alternator isn't bad.
 
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RR sport registered on 3rd August 2009, Water leaks, Suspension problems, non starting, electronics paked up on riute to Madrid 2nd week September.

RR Sport register October 2008, to many problems to mention, owner awaiting replacement after fighting with LR and dealer.

Disco 3 March 2009 transmission failure, oil leaks, 3 suspension failures, electronics failures leading to non starting.

Disco 3 May 2009. Water and oil leaks, differential whine leading to replacement, Suspension slumped twice on one side. 3 non starts with LR assisrance called out, 2 radio media package failures, 15 visits to dealers.

Dicso 3 Australia, November 2008 collection. Parked 20 minutes after leaving the dealers and then failed to start. Towed back to dealers, two days to be fixed. Collected and wouldn't start next day. Transmision diff whine, oil leak. Roof leaking when it eventualy rained, suspension failed. Parked outside dealers after 6 weeks, full refund. Sold 3 weeks later to somebody in the same area as our friends. Seen being towed back to dealers 3 days later.

Disco 4 3 litre diesel. Test drive by motor industry/press insider October 2009. Car wouldn't start, suspension had to be rebooted/reset. Oil leak. 3 weeks old, off road test after 3 days use, suspension faiure listing to one side

New Range Rover travelling with us this summer broke down after 5 unscheduled visits to UK dealer.
 
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MichaelE

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It is very easy to pick on certain makes,LR issues were a problem in the early days but they have improved which is a good thing.The German manufacturers do have their issues as well,Mercedes with their auto box and the Audi Q7'thirst for tyres.

There are a number of factors why you buy a car because you like it,looks good and drives well,its fit for purpose,running costs and reliablity.If reliabilty was the main reasons for buying cars Alfa Romeo would never sell a car!
 
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James3

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Have just got rid of my RR Sport 2.7l which had done 62000 and apart from services has been in the dealership a total of 2 days both for minor electrical problems which were easily fixed. Before some of you say I was lucky this is just my experience. The car was excellent both solo and towing. For me I wanted a vehicle which was good on road and did not ride like a tractor but also it needed to tow well when I used the caravan (about 3000 miles per year). I have now downsized on the caravan and having looked at the Santa Fe, Volvo XC60 have yea gone back to LR and bought a freelander 2 which is really good to drive both on road and towing. The Freelander seems very well put together but as I've only had it about 3 weeks time will tell how realiable it will be.
 
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landypete

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Landrover have going longer than most 4x4s todays models do suffer with reliabilty issues but used to have a 1968 s2a 2.25 petrol never broke down pulled van as if wos not there and can leggaly pull 3.5 tons not many other 4x4s today can do that (mine towed a 44 ton artic at work in low range no probs)
 
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Lutz

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You can't really compare a product which is basically a Defender today with other Land Rover models. The Series 2 and its successors benefitted from requirements to suit a military market where reliability is paramount.
 
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emmerson2

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I've read through all the posts in this thread, and feel that the biggest problem Land Rover have is their name.They've been around for so long in a world-wide capacity that everyone, from your granny to your maiden aunt has heard of them.Therefore, when anything goes wrong, the whole world can identify with the problem, cos an awful lot of people either own one now, or have owned one in the past.There are an awful lot of Land Rovers, of all models, out there giving yeoman service, and have done for many years. But good news doesn't often make the headlines, bad news does, so the faulty LR gets much more publicity than the trouble-free one.

I've owned Range Rover Classics now for many many years, and find them ideal for my purpose, but even I feel that LR have now lost the plot, and have gone to far up-market, and have left behind their bread and butter customers.Even a basic Defender is "posh" now.

In a similar vein, when I worked for the courier company with the red vans, no-one ever heard about the 30,000 odd consignments that were succesfully delivered every day, but by 'eck the whole world knew about the tiny amount that failed.

The same thing is now affecting LR.They are a victim of their own success.

Why else are sales increasing month on month, year on year?
 
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RogerP

Jun 28, 2007
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emmerson

fully agree with your comments.

I'm under no illusion LR have had reliability issues , but having owned 2 Freelanders , A Freelander 2 and a Disco 3 I never had the problems I'm supposed to have based upon what forums tell me sould have gone wrong.

I know of other more 'quality' brands that have far worse problems than LR but people dont jump on the band wagon as much.

I for one would not buy any Audi for any money , I see daily the ones that fail and why they fail. But people buy into the "vorsprung durch technik" brand and believe it. Same as BMW , I thought they'd be the bees knees , cant wait to get shot of my 5 Series Touring , worst car I've ever own and the dealer is no better. but people go back time and time again despite having duff cars from these brands.

Why - the BADGE on the front of the car.
 
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SteveW77

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Hi Roger, As someone who is seriously considering a BMW 530D as my next tow car, can you explain why in your opinion is is such a crap car, I would like to know before I part with
 
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RogerP

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HANDLING

I've got a major gripe about how poorly my car handles. Its been into the dealer who say they cant find anything wrong. But would willingly take
 
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SteveW77

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Oh dear, well I asked and you gave it in spades. Maybe time to re-view my thoughts. Are there any other BMW 5series owners who would like to have a say? Can't get to much info in view of the amount of money involved.

Steve W
 
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ShadySadie

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emmerson's view of world wide LR is decades out of date. Much of the world abandoned unreliable and weak Land Rovers thirty years ago.

Approached by a LR "sales executive" (that's a car salesman) on Tuesday all I got was image, image, image speak. I pointed out my neighbour friend stood in the service department awaiting her husbands eleven month old sport that has had multiple visits to the dealer. "Oh" he then went back to his desk.

They bought the sport and a Discovery for towing her horse box in January after years of faultless Toyota's and BMW's. Worse than the problems has been the dealer and Land Rovers attitude and Land Rover asistances lack of assistance.

My Mercedes and BMW dealers have been faultless, my husbands BMW had a minor gear box programming glitch. Dealer collected the car and left a loan car last week. They returned the car late in the day fully cleaned inside and out. Since then he's had two calls to check that the reprogramming is OK.

My friends Sport was left as dirty as when the dealer got it, and was booked in to go back next week as they need to change some seals to cure another leak. Yesterday morning it wouldn't start and her husband had to take the train. Media package radio satnav failed again in the Dicovery and he noticed as she pulled away that the suspension is listing to one side. Not the first time and the dealer says she can take it in next Wednesday.

Their attitude and laid back approach to "it's gone wrong again" is always the same and always very laid back.

When pushed hard about the notice period needed for LR servicing and the car not being ready on the same day and the waiting time for guarantee work. The LR "sales executive" and director admitted that they are always snowed under with warranty claims work.

Their problem will be solved with a new Amazon and X5 in January, the Toyota and BMW dealers were reluctant over PX for the Land Rovers.
 
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RogerP

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Steve ,

dont be overly put off by my experiences , alot of my dissatisfaction is with the poor quality of the dealer.

The car in principle I like , it does pull the van with little effort (mines the 520d SE Auto) and it ticks a lot of my choice boxes.

i just cant be doing with a car that doesn't perform properly or a dealer that is useless.

I have tried a different dealer but (another gripe) as not being a customer and the car having already been into my selling dealer , they were reluctant to get involved.

My problem is mostly how badly it handles , please dont be put off by my one experience , make sure before you decide to walk away.
 
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NigelHutson

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Steve ,

dont be overly put off by my experiences , alot of my dissatisfaction is with the poor quality of the dealer.

The car in principle I like , it does pull the van with little effort (mines the 520d SE Auto) and it ticks a lot of my choice boxes.

i just cant be doing with a car that doesn't perform properly or a dealer that is useless.

I have tried a different dealer but (another gripe) as not being a customer and the car having already been into my selling dealer , they were reluctant to get involved.

My problem is mostly how badly it handles , please dont be put off by my one experience , make sure before you decide to walk away.
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Roger,

Whilst I can't "help" with the handling aspect, I would put money on the running problems being down to the awful, naff, c**p,nasty, (you get the picture) Bosch MAF sensor that's fitted. They fail with alarming regularity, and I've even had new ones that were faulty! I replaced mine (despite the stealer just having fitted a new one which caused flat spots, and they suggested it couldn't possibly be the MAF - it's Bosch, it's German and all that) and never looked back.

Nigel.
 
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slimseydy

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In an attempt to bring some objectivity, here are the latest reliablity figures from Warranty Direct..

http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/news/item.htm?id=35747
Landrover aren't at the bottom - that honour goes to the Audi A6 Allroad, VW Tuareg and BMW X5.
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I agree,landrover is an excellent brand,they are the leaders in the 4X4 World,from freelelnder right up to top end range rover,warranty now gets top class honours & so does build quality.they have come a long way since rust buckets & breaking down days.most of all its built on our own land by our own people,support it ,dont knock it.
 
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