Service pitch connection

[ThePlotter]

I have had for a long time the hose connection and ball valve for in the aquaroll that I use when on serviced pitches,however the hose is both bulky and fairly heavy.
I have in the garden one of the expandable ( X hose ) hoses that are very light and small when not in use. So the question is could you use such a hose, even though it was always claimed you needed food quality hose. Given the length of time they are in use I am not convinced it really matters.
Any thoughts.

 

[Robtel]

Hi Plotter
I looked into getting one of those hoses, not for the caravan, but for use in the garden but decided against it after reading a lot of very unfavourable reviews. My main concern about using it as a water supply on a serviced pitch ( apart from the oft quoted health reasons) would be if it could tolerate the constant pressure or if you would return from an outing and find a burst hose and a very soggy pitch.

Haven't noticed you posting much recently, hope all is well.

Rob

 

[Gagakev]

Wouldnt bother with the flexi hose Plotter, had one for garden use last year didnt last 5 mins, tried to repair it but the inside core blows up like balloon, once the outer skin has broken there is not much chance of it ever working properly again.

On another note what sort of hose do you you for it to be bulky and heavy? I Use One of These rolls up to about the size of a plate, only picked this one as it was the first one I came to, shop around and you may even find it cheaper.

 

[colin-yorkshire]

yeah agree with Kev, dont bother use one of the flat food grade hoses, I too bought one of those flexi things when they first came out, because the hose reel on the house is right under a hanging basket and I always got wet winding it up.
lasted less than 2 weeks before is started blowing the ends off when used, they never go back on right once disturbed.

 

[Robtel]

I Use One of These rolls up to about the size of a plate, only picked this one as it was the first one I came to, shop around and you may even find it cheaper.

What type of connections do you use with the flat hose Kev? Do standard connections fit securely?
When I try and coil up my standard 7.5m hose after use it starts tidily enough but always seems to end up with a mind of its own and tries to escape as I attempt to get it into a bag. Been thinking about getting some of the flat hose.

 

[ProfJohnL]

Don't forget that if you use a flat hose, it has to be fully unwound before you can use it. Also when the hose becomes pressurised it will try to straighten out. It could become a trip hazard if not managed properly

 

[Sproket]

We use one of these to fill our onboard tank up when required, and the trick to get it all to fit back onto the reel after using it, is to walk the length of the hose and lift it to get all of the water out bit of a pita at times but it works and take's up very little room.

 

[Robtel]

Don't forget that if you use a flat hose, it has to be fully unwound before you can use it. Also when the hose becomes pressurised it will try to straighten out. It could become a trip hazard if not managed properly

I came across this: https://www.caravanaccessoryshop.co.uk/product/roll-on-water-hose-15m/3558?gclid=CKu596ebqM4CFUKVGwodb8YC0A

Apparently doesn't need to be fully unwound to be used.

The normal round hose can be a bit of a trip hazard as well as it tends to lie in coils or spirals, I've noticed though that in warmer weather it does eventually lie flat. Not been very much of that this summer though.

 

[Gagakev]

I Use One of These rolls up to about the size of a plate, only picked this one as it was the first one I came to, shop around and you may even find it cheaper.

What type of connections do you use with the flat hose Kev? Do standard connections fit securely?
When I try and coil up my standard 7.5m hose after use it starts tidily enough but always seems to end up with a mind of its own and tries to escape as I attempt to get it into a bag. Been thinking about getting some of the flat hose.

Peek Here
That is the type of set up I use but changed some of the fittings to brass one's and yes standard fittings work.
You can buy it all separate from various places, Screwfix/toolstation do the torbeck valves at about £7.00.
I just roll mine up, water finds it own way out and pop it back in a bag.

 

[Gagakev]

Don't forget that if you use a flat hose, it has to be fully unwound before you can use it. Also when the hose becomes pressurised it will try to straighten out. It could become a trip hazard if not managed properly

Prof Prof Prof............what about the the EHU lead? What about the waste water pipe? The list is endless
Also dont lay down beside the hose before switching on the tap,
it may wrap around your neck and strangle you :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[WoodlandsCamper]

Don't forget that if you use a flat hose, it has to be fully unwound before you can use it. Also when the hose becomes pressurised it will try to straighten out. It could become a trip hazard if not managed properly

Prof Prof Prof............what about the the EHU lead? What about the waste water pipe? The list is endless
Also dont lay down beside the hose before switching on the tap,
it may wrap around your neck and strangle you :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I'm with the prof on this one. If the pipe is flattened on a reel how does the water get through? :huh:

 

[Gagakev]

Don't forget that if you use a flat hose, it has to be fully unwound before you can use it. Also when the hose becomes pressurised it will try to straighten out. It could become a trip hazard if not managed properly

Prof Prof Prof............what about the the EHU lead? What about the waste water pipe? The list is endless
Also dont lay down beside the hose before switching on the tap,
it may wrap around your neck and strangle you :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I'm with the prof on this one. If the pipe is flattened on a reel how does the water get through? :huh:

If it's not unwound how will it reach the tap???
Who said it was on a reel?? Mine isnt!! But i still un wind it!!
Come on, it's not rocket science.

 

[KeefySher]

Use one of these for the water supply:
https://www.truma.com/uk/en/water-systems/ultraflow-waterline.php

Wind it up from the caravan end keeping it high and putting a turn in each revolution to empty it of water and prevent it kinking, then bung it in the front locker.

Use this set up for drainage:
https://caravanchronicles.com/2013/05/26/connecting-your-drainage-on-serviced-pitches/

Use these in conjunction with short bungee cords to manage positions of hoses, pipes and cables, slipped into the offside lower skirt channel:
http://www.fiamma.com/EN/products/fiammastore/accessories/kit%5Fawning%5Fhangers/

Cos I take responsibility for my and others elf and safe tea in case others can't look where they are walking and pick their limbs up without blaming everyone else for their laziness.

Where there is a blame there is a claim :evil: :evil:

 

[ProfJohnL]

Don't forget that if you use a flat hose, it has to be fully unwound before you can use it. Also when the hose becomes pressurised it will try to straighten out. It could become a trip hazard if not managed properly

I came across this: https://www.caravanaccessoryshop.co.uk/product/roll-on-water-hose-15m/3558?gclid=CKu596ebqM4CFUKVGwodb8YC0A

Apparently doesn't need to be fully unwound to be used......

that is because its not a true flat hose.

 

[ProfJohnL]

Don't forget that if you use a flat hose, it has to be fully unwound before you can use it. Also when the hose becomes pressurised it will try to straighten out. It could become a trip hazard if not managed properly

Prof Prof Prof............what about the the EHU lead? What about the waste water pipe? The list is endless
Also dont lay down beside the hose before switching on the tap,
it may wrap around your neck and strangle you :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I'm with the prof on this one. If the pipe is flattened on a reel how does the water get through? :huh:

If it's not unwound how will it reach the tap???
Who said it was on a reel?? Mine isnt!! But i still un wind it!!
Come on, it's not rocket science.

I clearly stated "fully" unwound.

 

[ProfJohnL]

Don't forget that if you use a flat hose, it has to be fully unwound before you can use it. Also when the hose becomes pressurised it will try to straighten out. It could become a trip hazard if not managed properly

Prof Prof Prof............what about the the EHU lead? What about the waste water pipe? The list is endless
Also dont lay down beside the hose before switching on the tap,
it may wrap around your neck and strangle you :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Lay flat hoses will act like a Christmas party toy, that straightens out when you blow into it. I specifically said if its not properly managed, meaning that if the hose is lain haphazardly, then it will change its shape and size when the waster pressure builds and it could move from where it has been lain. Electric cables do not have this same property.

 

[Mel]

When you need to connect an extension hose and the water pressure is really high and it blows off the connector and the hose snakes about spraying water everywhere and OH decides that the thing to do is NOT turn it off at the tap, but go and grab the snaking end.............now that is funny.
Mel

 

[ProfJohnL]

Hello Mel,

That sound like hes just confirming his role as a woosie

 

[Raywood]

It seems to me that you are going to drink the water coming through the pipe and the pipes are not going to be clean unless you get a food grade one. For the cost of a length of the real thing is it worth the risk?

 

[Dustydog]

I use the genuine "Hitchman" kit. Came with its own storage bag. Quite honestly I can't say it's heavy. In fact it's lighter than the EHU cable. Takes a bit of effort to coil it up to put in the bag especially when cold. Also it comes with a one way flow attachment which I believe is a water authority legal requirement today.
Whilst it is food grade I suggest it still needs sterilising every so often with Milton . So if you use a non food grade and clean it regularly I wouldn't have thought you were at risk with bugs.
Overall I doubt there's even one kg difference .

 

[Robtel]

Whilst it is food grade I suggest it still needs sterilising every so often with Milton . So if you use a non food grade and clean it regularly I wouldn't have thought you were at risk with bugs.
Overall I doubt there's even one kg difference .

No expert on the the qualities or compositions of different types of water hose but my understanding was that the non food grade hoses had the potential to leech carcinogenic chemicals into the water rendering the water unfit or at least not recommended for consumption. Sterilising wouldn't do anything to lessen this.

 

[ProfJohnL]

Whilst it is food grade I suggest it still needs sterilising every so often with Milton . So if you use a non food grade and clean it regularly I wouldn't have thought you were at risk with bugs.
Overall I doubt there's even one kg difference .

No expert on the the qualities or compositions of different types of water hose but my understanding was that the non food grade hoses had the potential to leech carcinogenic chemicals into the water rendering the water unfit or at least not recommended for consumption. Sterilising wouldn't do anything to lessen this.

Correct!

 

[Dustydog]

Thanks Rob.
In that case it's a no brained. Will we now see a rush to buy the genuine thing

 

[WoodlandsCamper]

Our hose may be food quality but I bet all the couplings aren't.

 

[ThePlotter]

Thank you everybody for your replies it has made an interesting debate. At home I have two hoses a conventional one for dragging across the drive etc when washing cars and the van ,and a proper expandable one for the garden that in the summer is used almost daily without issues,they do say to avoid rough surfaces hence the hoses I use.
The kit I use is the one made for the purpose is fine but I was curious about alternatives.