He will not put a road tax on caravans whilst Mrs. Beckett is an MP. They would not want to upset her in any way as hse can often be very outspoken.
Is there a web site where you can check individual cars i tow with a 52 plate x trail 2.2di and am not sure of the band it will fall into i currently pay
I agree with those who think that most of us who already own 4x4s or other large cars have got off pretty light. Don't forget the higher
I agree with those who think that most of us who already own 4x4s or other large cars have got off pretty light. Don't forget the higher
Diesel car TC49
Cars registered on or after 1 March 2001 based on CO2 emissions and fuel type.
Please note: These rates apply only to cars that have been type approved within category M1 of Annex II to Council Directive 70/156/EEC and which have been registered on the basis of a type approval certificate that shows its carbon dioxide emissions level in terms of grams per kilometre driven.
Band CO2 emission figures (g/km)* Diesel car 12 months rate
Cars registered on or after 1 March 2001 based on CO2 emissions and fuel type.
Please note: These rates apply only to cars that have been type approved within category M1 of Annex II to Council Directive 70/156/EEC and which have been registered on the basis of a type approval certificate that shows its carbon dioxide emissions level in terms of grams per kilometre driven.
Band CO2 emission figures (g/km)* Diesel car 12 months rate
Apologies, I hit the Submit button too soon (by mistake and without checking!)...
So I repeat posting I just made:
I agree with those who think that most of us who already own 4x4s or other large cars have got off pretty lightly. Don't forget the higher
So I repeat posting I just made:
I agree with those who think that most of us who already own 4x4s or other large cars have got off pretty lightly. Don't forget the higher
VIP',it's an age thing isn't it . A tax system to encourage people to drive less polluting cars that encourages people to drive older more polluting cars.
What a government ;O)
What a government ;O)
Colinn, it's not all about 4x4's is it ? I think more non 4x4's will have to pay the tax hike. Don't get sucked into the greens propagander.
Brian (",)
Brian (",)
I couldn't agree more but I bet tomorrow's press headlines are all about 4*4 gas guzzlers.
It just makes so much sense to increase fuel duty so that whoever drives most, pays most. But that is far too simple for Brown who's philosophy always seems to be to make the tax rules incredibly complicated.
And has anyone else noticed how often a lot of the detail is in the small print which never gets mentioned in his budget speech?
It just makes so much sense to increase fuel duty so that whoever drives most, pays most. But that is far too simple for Brown who's philosophy always seems to be to make the tax rules incredibly complicated.
And has anyone else noticed how often a lot of the detail is in the small print which never gets mentioned in his budget speech?
exactly Brian, and I being 71 really only have a few more years enjoying my only form of recreation, taking into account : age/health/wealth and I hopefully would like to afford one more new towcar and possibly a new van.
I have never been a particularly lucky in financial terms during my earlier years and like a lot of my contempories with a mortgage the Int.rate was between 10-16% and saving accounts which earned around 5-6 % ( I could not afford to save.) When my financial position was better and with no mortgage we had very low interest rates for mortgages and miniscule interest on savings so I cannot win. What I am determined to do is to enjoy what time I've at my disposal revisiting the UK. and sod them all. I see he is to increase the threshold on inheritance tax so at least my son may get something from our sacrifices.
Regards FKG
Yes , and the tax cut to 20p, great news for some but what about the scrapping of the 10% rate.More low income people paying more tax.
Robbing the poor to pay the rich.
Robbing the poor to pay the rich.
Hi,
with all the talk of car tax rates I wonder if the following website will help anyone out:
http://www.vcacarfueldata.org.uk/search/
You can search by Car Make & Model / VED Band / MPG etc
It helped me when looking for a suitable tow car
with all the talk of car tax rates I wonder if the following website will help anyone out:
http://www.vcacarfueldata.org.uk/search/
You can search by Car Make & Model / VED Band / MPG etc
It helped me when looking for a suitable tow car
I agree with you, Brian. If they were serious about reducing emissions it's the old polluters which should be taxed off the road. If it's only going to be newer vehicles then it's just a money raiser.
I know Emmerson, I had one a long time ago, probably before you (thats one nil for the younger (just) generation, me thinks). But according to the greens, it doesn't matter what you drive, ol, new or middle aged, you're a baddy. I wonder what they do their weekly Tesco shop in?
I have read about the increase in the road fund licence,am i right in thinking that this increase only applies to new car registered from March 2006?and car with CO2 of 185 and above (band F) have been lowwered to
Brian, Lutz,
Whilst older cars without cats may be "dirtier" they do not necessarily produce more co2, My 1989 Golf GTI could get nearly 50 mpg, the use of cats rather than lean burn technology means todays petrols actually use more fuel. cats do not remove co2.
The co2 emitted in the production of a new car and other emissions from the production process are far greater than keeping an old car on the road longer.
Our band "E" car (Ford S-max)is more than capable of towing our 20' 6 berth twin axle caravan and has more cabin space than all but the largest 4x4s
Whilst older cars without cats may be "dirtier" they do not necessarily produce more co2, My 1989 Golf GTI could get nearly 50 mpg, the use of cats rather than lean burn technology means todays petrols actually use more fuel. cats do not remove co2.
The co2 emitted in the production of a new car and other emissions from the production process are far greater than keeping an old car on the road longer.
Our band "E" car (Ford S-max)is more than capable of towing our 20' 6 berth twin axle caravan and has more cabin space than all but the largest 4x4s
dont fourget that like my new shogun it will be worth less than a 2 year old one whot do i do now
I am just replying to stand up for the "apathetic voter" who is to blame for all these problems.
I am one of these - though not apathetic. Last time i went to vote i had a "choice" of Labour, Tory or Lib Dem. Couldn't decide which liar to vote for so didn't vote.
No government will make voting compulsory. How would they explain if say, more than 50% of the people were like me and spoiled their paper so as to avoid voting for someone they didn't want? The government would not have a mandate from the majority would they? Same as if they put "none of the above" on a ballot paper as was suggested before the last election.
No, they are quite cosy having the majority who voted to fall back on even if it is only 40ish%.
As i posted on another forum, wouldn't it be intersting if you could vote for "none of the above" and if this was the majority then the constituency remained vacant? We could end up with a parliament of 12 MPs! Think of the money that would be saved! No need for green (or many other) taxes. And you can be sure they would start listening to the electorate very quickly indeed.
I am one of these - though not apathetic. Last time i went to vote i had a "choice" of Labour, Tory or Lib Dem. Couldn't decide which liar to vote for so didn't vote.
No government will make voting compulsory. How would they explain if say, more than 50% of the people were like me and spoiled their paper so as to avoid voting for someone they didn't want? The government would not have a mandate from the majority would they? Same as if they put "none of the above" on a ballot paper as was suggested before the last election.
No, they are quite cosy having the majority who voted to fall back on even if it is only 40ish%.
As i posted on another forum, wouldn't it be intersting if you could vote for "none of the above" and if this was the majority then the constituency remained vacant? We could end up with a parliament of 12 MPs! Think of the money that would be saved! No need for green (or many other) taxes. And you can be sure they would start listening to the electorate very quickly indeed.
I take the point that it's not just 4x4s affected - that is why I said in my opening paragraph "4x4s and other large cars".
HOWEVER, in caravanning terms, many of us who tow biggish caravans are buying 4x4s because they are more capable in terms of lugging and higher noseweight.
So on this Forum, I am talking in terms of that fraternity and for them it is bound to make them think whether they can justify buying another 4x4 at their next trade in.
Since other 4x4 drivers, who don't need them, will be offloading them in droves then the bottom will surely fall out of the market.
That's bad news for those who have bought a 4x4 since March 2006 and bad news for car manufacturers trying to sell them new. But it's good news for those of us who bought before March 2006 and good news for anyone who wants to pick up a second-hand one cheap (providing they're prepared to pay the higher taxes and ancilliary penalties).
Me, I can't complain. My 3 litre diesel 4x4 auto will be taxed at only marginally more than my Corsa 1.4 petrol auto...! If Gordy was out to bash big car owners, he's failed miserably...
HOWEVER, in caravanning terms, many of us who tow biggish caravans are buying 4x4s because they are more capable in terms of lugging and higher noseweight.
So on this Forum, I am talking in terms of that fraternity and for them it is bound to make them think whether they can justify buying another 4x4 at their next trade in.
Since other 4x4 drivers, who don't need them, will be offloading them in droves then the bottom will surely fall out of the market.
That's bad news for those who have bought a 4x4 since March 2006 and bad news for car manufacturers trying to sell them new. But it's good news for those of us who bought before March 2006 and good news for anyone who wants to pick up a second-hand one cheap (providing they're prepared to pay the higher taxes and ancilliary penalties).
Me, I can't complain. My 3 litre diesel 4x4 auto will be taxed at only marginally more than my Corsa 1.4 petrol auto...! If Gordy was out to bash big car owners, he's failed miserably...
just as an addendum to this debate, while i was killing the planet yesterday on my way back from London, i had the radio on listening to the budget and then later on, an interview with Henrik Svensmark.
Have a quick look here if you have a few spare minutes.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/newsnight/2007/02/the_chilling_stars_by_calder_and_svensmark.html
Have a quick look here if you have a few spare minutes.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/newsnight/2007/02/the_chilling_stars_by_calder_and_svensmark.html
Just reading on WhatCar.com that all of vehicles on sale in the UK, 743 fall into Band G (226g/km) of which 210 are 4x4's.
Pity the press don't know this statistic when they refer to 'gas guzzlers' as 4x4's.
Pity the press don't know this statistic when they refer to 'gas guzzlers' as 4x4's.
I have just bought a new Jeep Commander which is in band G and so when I renew the lic next year I'll have to pay
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