The rules for dogs on site,

[PhilJoanne-SwiftCorniche173]

We all know the rules about dogs on site there's no excuse because we are all given some form of literature to read on arrival about site rules.

We went to B*****t Caravan Park in Llanwst merited for winning Wales in bloom a number of times, it was March and not the warmest of weather and windy but a week away from work was needed, the site had no other dogs apart from ours a small cross breed that we got from a rescue centre and the owners two sheep dogs that I could see.

So why are there dogs allowed to roam wherever they please, answer they own the site, so when one of there dogs decided to leave a steaming present just outside our awning door what can you do?

I could just see myself going to the owners and complaining, ive complained about loud music on other sites and always had a good response but complaining about a site owners dogs made me emagine the conversation.

"How do you know it was our dogs", "there highly trained sheep dogs"

My reply "Because my dog does not pass its own body weight"

Ect ect

"It's our site if you don't like it get off" or "get off your trouble makers" which we are not

So to avoid the hassle I removed the item so the next people on the pitch would not think our dog was the culprit

So site owners set your rules but "lead" by example!!!

 

[ThePlotter]

That will be Bodnant then

 

[Lord Braykewynde]

Steady Phil & Joanne, dog topics are a contentious issue on here, along with hundreds of others, and could lead to your thread being deleted but I agree with you 100% :O)

 

[colin(bridgend)]

I agree with Lord B. - dogs are a contentious topic on this forum, therefore to prevent any further disharmony on the froum concerning dogs I propose that they should ALL be put down - all touring sites would then be clean and children will be free to play around the caravans without falling into dog muck or even setting them off barking and thereby upsetting the irresponsible owners who brought their dog(s) along in the first place.

 

[joeby]

your brave Colin, im keeping out of this one

 

[LMH]

Hi Phil&Joanne-Swift Corniche 17/3

I'm replying to this thread in the hope thats it's not another wind up.

Personally, if it was me in your situation, I would approach the owners and say in a polite manner 'I notice that your dogs roam around the site, that's fine, they're friendly dogs. However, I'd just like to clarify that I pick up after my dog/s all the time. Any dog mess that you might find will not belong to my dog but yours or perhaps any other caravanners who arrive on site with dogs and don't pick up after theirs'.

I still think this post is a wind up.

Lisa

 

[colin(bridgend)]

Lisa I have been posting here now for a few years and would I do anything to "wind" you up? You should know me by now - I am just a level headed hard working Welsh man who would do anything to help his fellow being. I just could not resist "winding" Lord B up but he did not fall for the bait LOL.

 

[joeby]

Lisa I have been posting here now for a few years and would I do anything to "wind" you up? You should know me by now - I am just a level headed hard working Welsh man who would do anything to help his fellow being. I just could not resist "winding" Lord B up but he did not fall for the bait LOL.

thats why i said you was brave Colin , trying to upset L B

 

[colin(bridgend)]

Lisa I have been posting here now for a few years and would I do anything to "wind" you up? You should know me by now - I am just a level headed hard working Welsh man who would do anything to help his fellow being. I just could not resist "winding" Lord B up but he did not fall for the bait LOL.

Once you get to know him he is a big hearted softy - all that is required is to penertrate his thick rhino skin

 

[LMH]

Hi Colin

Are you saying you invented 'Phil&Joanne-Swift Corniche 17/3'? - that was who I was referring to.

Lisa

 

[colin(bridgend)]

Hi Colin

Are you saying you invented 'Phil&Joanne-Swift Corniche 17/3'? - that was who I was referring to.

Lisa

No Lisa my wind up was purely directed at Lord B's reply but as I said he has not taken the bait. I have never assumed another identity on this or any other forum except for adding the word "bridgend" to identify me from other "Colin" on the site.

 

[LMH]

Ok fair comment Colin.

Lisa

 

[colin(bridgend)]

Ok fair comment Colin.

Lisa

Lisa - I would like to apologise if you thought I was trying to wind you up as I know of your likeness for dogs, horses etc. My posting was purely intended as a bit of fun aimed at Lord B.

 

[colin-yorkshire]

hi lisa.

wether the original post or any after comments are a windup or not actually does not detract from what is actually a valid point.

I hate to see loose dogs running about no matter where they are or how well they are trained,THEY should be on a lead at all times when out in public. mine is, she is a 12yo cairn terrier and is so used to allways being on the lead she will not go out of the house or van without it on so much so that if the lead is removed while out she just stands there and wont move untill it is put back on.

just about every site we go on ther are signs all over "dogs on leads at all times" and "no dogs allowed" signs near the play areas, ponds, and toilet blocks, there is no excuse for ignoring the rules no matter whos dog it is, a fellow camper or the site warden or owner.

in my view wardens and site owners are not vigilant enough to enforce the rules, and this is the problem, in my experience the owner of a dog, that walks along with the dog on the loose is usually the one who doesn't clean it up they just carry on walking with a "it's not my dog" that just dumped over there 50mtrs away,

if I see a dog loose or dump on site I report it every time and if possible take a photo of the culprit as evidence, very rarely do I encounter a negative responce once reported. this happend a while ago when on a site in hartlands in devon, a labrador was running around loose and dumped in the middle of the field so I took a photo of it and reported it to reception, the woman at the office was very red faced and appologised as it was her dog!!! she came over and cleaned the mess up. in the 2 remaining weeks we were there I never saw the dog on site again.

my advice if you see something report it then perhaps there will be more harmony between dog owners and others on the site, because if we dont then there will be more and more sites with "NO DOGS" signs on their front gates.

colin

 

[joeby]

Once you get to know him he is a big hearted softy - all that is required is to penertrate his thick rhino skin

Oh i have met him Colin ,

 

[Sparkle1]

Dogs, Dogs, Dogs!!! i used to run a very professional pet minding company until family circumstances go in the way and i have to say that owners are worse than the dogs in most occasions!!!

I love all animals but dogs can be very dangerous animals when the mood takes them, i have been bitten badly on 3 occasions by dogs which had no previous record and have been seemingly under control and "very friendly".

Twice by border collies in seperate incidences in different parts of the uk and once by an english bull terrier. All 3 occasions damaged my clothing and bit through to my skin, the bull terrier being the only one that got put down as the owner was a responsible kind of chap. The border collies though were not put down and on both occasions these bites were very nasty and required hospital attention and stitches. Now i am scared of this breed. But being the parent of 3 young children i am extremely cautious about dog owners having their dogs run loose and being a potential threat to my kids health or safety.

I beg all dog owners to please think of others, keep your dog on a lead.... think of others.... pick up their poops, because the worst thing for a kid is stepping in dog doo and smearing it all over your bike pedals or scooter or skate board not to mention all through a caravan or awning.

Being the proud owner of a lovely german shepherd dog, i am paranoid about my dog even peeing anywhere in case someone thinks she's pooing and i haven't picked it up. The offending minority are giving dogs and their owners a bad name, it's about high time the law started clamping down firmly on offenders! Here here, officially off the soap box now!

 

[Guest]

I don't believe that any dog no matter how well natured it may seem is safe to roam a camp site where children are likely to be.

An 18 month old toddler friendly tugging an ear or poking a finger at the nicest of pooches is a recipe for disaster. If the case is factual I think the site owners are barmy and are

putting themselves at risk.

Friends stayed near York last year and CL owners huge "friendy" Ridgebacks wandered the site. They were not convinced and nor were other caravanners.

 

[LMH]

Hi Sparkle

I'm just curios to know why, after you saying you have been bitten three times and having three small children along with you stating that 'dogs can be very dangerous when the mood takes them' - you have opted for a guarding breed.

Could you enlighten us to the circumstances around the three separate incidents you refer to. Again, I am just curious.

I've had dogs since the age of three (different breeds), I've done agility, obedience and showing. Although never worked with dogs in my professional life, I would call myself a competent handler.

I was bitten once by a GSD when I was 11, I ignored a sign saying 'guard dogs lose'. I arrived for a riding lesson too early and instead of waiting outside the gates, I entered the premises.

Lisa

 

[Lord Braykewynde]

I'm of the opinion that ALL dogs should be on leads in public places. Then people will have more control of the dog and see where and when it dumps instead of the owner wandering off with the dog 50 yards behind fouling the area.

It's unbelievable how many people on C.C. site dog areas let their nasty dogs off the lead as I experienced recently at Chew Valley with a man and his two loose boxers.

On all caravan sites there are signs saying "People love your dog - on a lead" but I'm sure some are too dense to read.

I get fed up of being tarred with the same brush by people who are anti-dog just because of these anti-social owners who believe they are exempt from the rules.

Anyone been to Sandringham lately? Take a walk in the woods, apart from the ticks the paths are full of dog mess. Don't let your kids ride their bikes along the paths else they will have it all over their bike tyres. Having spent a week there recently on a pitch next to the entrance to a woodland walk I can honestly say that we were the only ones to come out of the wood carrying a bag of dumps.

 

[Litespeed]

Just to add my 'Tuppence worth',

I really do have an aversion to dogs. I dont really know why, but they scare me to death. I am sorry to say I appear to have passed this dislike of dogs on to my children, who really panic whenever approaced by a dog, which often makes the situation worse as the dog jumps up at my 5 year old. 9 times out of 10 the owner will say he's fine he's just being friendly! Well sorry but I will willingly hit out or kick any dog that jumps up on us, and often much to the annoyance of the owner.

We live and regularly caravan in Cornwall where it seems the beaches are a complete dog 'free for all'. Why is it that owners feel the need to walk there dogs on beaches? Cornwall has miles and miles of green fields and footpaths but owners seem to take the dogs where there are hundreds of other dogs, all running free, pinching footballs, tennis balls, frisbee's and generally poo-ing everywhere. Oh well it doesnt matter the tide will be in soon is what most people say!

My other gripe with dogs are - now picture this...A lovely afternoon / evening on site, stop and listen, what can you hear? 6 or 7 dogs around the site all barking! Now you can imagine what would happen if it was a guest playing music to that noise level! They would be thrown off immediatley, so why do we have to put up with dogs barking at all hours....it just seems to be expected and allowed.

I am genuinely sorry if I have offended anybody, but just like smoking in a public place affects other innocent people, so do dogs running around, poo-ing and barking like looneys all. day!

 

[Guest]

I've visited Cornwall many times and was there about a month a go visiting a cousin and family friends.

Sorry Lightspeed but you come across as being Paranoid about dogs. I've never seen anything like you describe and many Cornish beaches ban dogs as they do in many other counties. If I were a dog owner I would ask why you do not use them.

As a serial caravanner I find far more noisy young children than dogs on caravan and camp sites that annoy others. We take two of our three young grandaughters caravanning and will take our third one when she is old enough.

I see far more dogs on French beaches when at home and most people seem to enjoy seeing Families at play, dogs are part of the family!

Caravanners have to put up with parents who will not chastise their unruly children, noisy ill mannered brats, people who drink to much and talk and play a variety of noise box's to loud.

It's a two way trade, your take on dogs comes across as a little over the top Lightspeed.

As a non dog owner caravanner I can't accept that a minority of dog phobic's can start demanding what others do.

We enjoy dogs on site and would not want people to exclude them from their leisure time, and our little girls have made friends with some very nice dogs whilst caravanning.

 

[MidlandsDave_374366241]

If you kicked my dog I would definately have something to say. Kicking a dog just because it is being friendly is close to animal cruelty in my opinion!

 

[LMH]

A friend of mine's six year old son had a morbid fear of dogs. His dad took him on the local park one night on his mini moto . A spaniel off lead went running towards the boy, the boy panicked and drove his mini moto into a concrete bollard and was killed instantly.

Now, personally I don't agree with children being allowed or encouraged to ride mini motos (his dad fixed the speed to 10mph, still too fast). Was his dad to blame for buying the mini moto, was his mum and dad to blame for having a GSD on a chain in the garden which used to bite people? Or was the owner of the spaniel to blame? All three were to blame in my opinion.

Lisa

 

[Lord Braykewynde]

Why have a GSD in the garden if your child has a phobia about dogs? Isn't that child cruelty? Personally I believe it's child cruelty allowing a six year old to ride one of those contraptions, kids grow up quick enough as it is, enjoy them when they are small.

I bet the parents blamed everyone else but themselves. Probably suing the spaniel owner :O(

 

[Lord Braykewynde]

I can understand Litespeed having a fear of dogs, lots of people have phobias. I wouldn't agree with him/her kicking the dog though, deserves to get bitten if that's the case. Just turn away from the dog and don't make eye contact.

As a person who lives in Cornwall it seems strange that Liespeed isn't awayre of the local bye-laws. The vast majority of Cornish beaches are banned to dogs from Easter Day or April 1st, whichever is sooner until October 1st.

I've just closed my eyes and pictured Litespeeds scenario but somehow can't get on the same wavelength. Where do you go Litespeed? Please let me know because having travelled from Brora in the north to Marazion in the south I've never yet experienced this picture that you paint on ANY caravan site.

Yes, dogs do bark, mine do to, but not like you describe. Children scream so shall we ban them also? Like you with dogs kids also frighten me riding their bikes around my caravan .... heh! heh! heh! (joke for the humourless ones).

Simple answer is to book a site where dogs are banned, like those who prefer not to be disturbed by children pick Adult Only sites.

I'd love to know where these beaches in Cornwall are though :O)