Water not flowing

[JTQ]

Makes you wonder how well the water is filtered as we are ingesting all that muck.

Even if the caravan has what is sold as a filter at the pump's delivery point, there are metres of internal tubing for muck to culture, live its life out, die and then pass on to block the faucet (taps etc) filters.

Add into that some of these "so called" supply filters if not drained and dried out or sterilised after use, then standing stagnant till the van is used again, makes a wonderful culture environment for lots of microbial activities. Another designed in source of debris to potentially break away and block faucet filters.
Much IMO will not be a serious health risk, but enough that I will not tolerate having any system filters, nor drink any unboiled water drawn from our caravan's water system; that need is simply from a portable small container with freshly, daily or more often if needed, drawn water.
This also avoids drinking in any of the plasticisers that potentially can leach from the systems tubing; IMO all things better avoided even if not a great risk.

 

[JTQ]

I wasn't referring to lime. While we are on a about water, on the news this morning a commodity that we get for free, the cost of maintenance and lining pockets of shareholders for it will be be increased by 36% over the next 5 years so well above inflation. I wonder if standards will improve?

Lucky those that will only be 36%, here in Southern Water the talk is over 50%; IMO much in part the ramifications of our headlong building of countless thousands of new homes without bothering to pre-empt this new demand by providing extra water treatment facilities. IMO the developers should have footed that infrastructure cost , but of course reflecting in the price they charge these new house buyers.

On this 36% over inflation mean rise, is this compounded for each of the 5 years, or what the total rise will be over that 5 year period; BBC was not making it at all clear to me, and its impact will be very different.

 

[RogerL]

I wasn't referring to lime. While we are on a about water, on the news this morning a commodity that we get for free, the cost of maintenance and lining pockets of shareholders for it will be be increased by 36% over the next 5 years so well above inflation. I wonder if standards will improve?

Good news for all the pension funds with big investments in Water Companies !!!

 

[JTQ]

Good news for all the pension funds with big investments in Water Companies !!!

But another demand on the resources of our own "pension funds", my pot will only go down with greater demands placed on it.

 

[otherclive]

I wasn't referring to lime. While we are on a about water, on the news this morning a commodity that we get for free, the cost of maintenance and lining pockets of shareholders for it will be be increased by 36% over the next 5 years so well above inflation. I wonder if standards will improve?

I think the standard of water will stay the same as there been no concerns in that area. There are problems with infrastructure and supply pipework where leaks and replacements are required. The really big issue is the appalling performance in dealing with sewage especially during or following heavy rain where sewage discharges lead to contamination of rivers and the sea. It’s a national shame.

 

[RogerL]

I think the standard of water will stay the same as there been no concerns in that area. There are problems with infrastructure and supply pipework where leaks and replacements are required. The really big issue is the appalling performance in dealing with sewage especially during or following heavy rain where sewage discharges lead to contamination of rivers and the sea. It’s a national shame.

We have separate storm drains and sewerage drains on our '70s estate but in some areas they only have one drain where both go - so the sewerage system becomes overloaded during heavy rain - sewerage treatment plants have nowhere to store that excess so it's inevitably released into local rivers.

The only real solution is to install separate storm drains in all the areas without.

 

[otherclive]

We have separate storm drains and sewerage drains on our '70s estate but in some areas they only have one drain where both go - so the sewerage system becomes overloaded during heavy rain - sewerage treatment plants have nowhere to store that excess so it's inevitably released into local rivers.

The only real solution is to install separate storm drains in all the areas without.

In one of our local towns, Bradford on Avon, Wessex Water have installed a massive rainwater holding tank and it has been constructed under the town's cricket/soccer area. They dug the ground up, constructed the tank and then replaced the top surfaces etc. You wouldn't know that such large piece of infrastructure had been installed, plus the playing surfaces are much improved as better drainage went in too. The local sewage works is about 1 km away and the tanks contents are pumped to there.

 

[JTQ]

The only real solution is to install separate storm drains in all the areas without.

Whilst it is I agree a logical solution, how practically can they identify all properties where the roofing etc drains are or have been diverted into the sewerage system, and put in the infrastructures of a separate drainage system?

The reality IMO in both cases is that's not going to happen other than in new or major rebuilds.
The pragmatic solution IMO is likely to be increasing in both buffering storage tanks and handling plant, that still comes with a eye watering bill.

Our rural property has soakaways for the roof and the surfaced drive, historic in that until recent years we were on a sealed cess pit.
The cost of emptying that every few months rather dictated nothing but what had to go in there was piped there.

 

[ProfJohnL]

According to an official from OfWat, the increased charges will be ring fenced for capitol works to improve water handling, to prevent the money being used for shareholder dividends and executives bonuses, with the threat of clawing it back should any of it be found to have been used for such.

I'd like to see the mechanisms OfWat can use to ensure th e money is not misused.

 

[Dustydog]

When you see this stuff lurking in your pipes you have to ask: are you feeling lucky?

 

[Buckman]

But another demand on the resources of our own "pension funds", my pot will only go down with greater demands placed on it.

Agreed as the cost of water will be so high that it will make a big dent in your pension pot unless you are a director at the bankrupt water company who still gets their big bonus! Just to add Severn Trent households will see their bills rise by 47 per cent before inflation and we live within the ST area.

 

[Dustydog]

This CEO runs one of the worst River polluters in the U.K.
Why does failure get so well rewarded🤮🤬

 

[Buckman]

This CEO runs one of the worst River polluters in the U.K.
Why does failure get so well rewarded🤮🤬

The excuse is the payment is required to attract high-calibre employees. Ha Ha!

 

[JTQ]

Much of that yuk will be dead by then

 

[toad a caravan]

It might not rain as much 😁😁

 

[Beachball]

It might not rain as much 😁😁

Where we were last night a place near Stone Staffordshire it rained all night this morning we had hail stones and snow showers and then after loading the car put home details on the satnav as we were heading along this road to get on the A50 the road was flooded so my car got a good wash underneath, but lucky it was not to deep .

 

[Dustydog]

Where we were last night a place near Stone Staffordshire it rained all night this morning we had hail stones and snow showers and then after loading the car put home details on the satnav as we were heading along this road to get on the A50 the road was flooded so my car got a good wash underneath, but lucky it was not to deep .

I thought you’d given up the wild rides at Alton Towers BB😜

 

[Beachball]

I thought you’d given up the wild rides at Alton Towers BB😜

Funny enough been to Alton Towers and it was a great day for the family