Brussel Sprouts.

[NorfolkMike]

The time has come for us to stand and be counted!!!

Defend your rights!!!!!!

We must demand the right to continue to put crosses on our Brussel Sprouts (even if we do not like them well done) Its the principle that is at stake.

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[gypsy]

I agree with you, I always put a cross in my Sprouts and always will do.

 

[Lord Braykewynde]

Don't shout too much Mike else there will be a directive from Brussels banning the cross, thats unless our PC government or British Airways beat them to it :O)

I propose that they drop the Brussels from the name and call them Norfolk Sprouts. The populace of Norfolk must be tired of being called "Swedey's". hehheh! :OP

 

[NorfolkMike]

L.B.

What are you like boy?

Sugar beet and mangowertzles.

Dont you know nothing?

If you have never tried getting out of Norfolk on the A47 to Newark behind a sugar beet lorry and hopeing that as they are un-covered one is not going to dent your shiny new caravan then 'You Have Not Lived'

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[Marc1]

Mike, Its th A17 at our end and I thought that all the beet from Norfolk went to Cantley ?

Marc

 

[Lord Braykewynde]

Herefordshire is the worse county I've travelled for tractor and trailers, even worse than Norfolk. If it isn't potatoes or hops it's apples for Bulmers or Westons cider factories. Most grain goes by bulk carrier lorries and theres plenty of them about. I'm not complaining because we have to eat and drink but I do wish they would pull in and let people pass when they have the means to. The worse experience I had was once, after a day out with our grandson, we met up with a queue of traffic 10 miles from home and when we entered Hereford we were still stuck in the queue with the tractor happily dawdling along between 15 and 20mph with about 50 cars behind, we were about the 20th. Apologies for being off topic so now back to sprouts :O)

 

[NorfolkMike]

remaining off topic (it's chrismas afterall)

In Norfolk you have what are called (By Roads).

Be warned if you travel down one of these and meet a tractor. You can be sure that the driver is looking backward to ensure that his load is still intact. You Have Been Warned.

Back to brussel sprouts

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[Lord Braykewynde]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/mid/3839615.stm
I also found an apt proverb - hehheh! aint Google wonderful.

The man who drives the tractor will never know the small pleasure of overtaking somebody. Only the enormous pleasure of stopping others overtaking him.

Albanian proverb.

I found the following on the Department of Transport site -

Over 1,000 people are killed or injured each year in the UK in agricultural vehicle accidents. Eighteen percent of the casualties are agricultural vehicle drivers. Agricultural vehicles have relatively more accidents when turning right than other vehicles on rural roads commonly when another vehicle is overtaking. Car drivers appear to be unaware when tractors are turning, particularly on bright, sunny, summer days.

Well if it's anything like where I live it's lucky if they have lights at all on the trailer although they are better than they used to be.

I digress, back to peeling the sprouts........

 

[emmerson2]

lord B, whilst I agree with you re slow tractors (and as I delivered in rural Herefordshire for the Queen for ten years, I think I'm qualified to judge!), how often is the problem exacerbated (!) by having a driver who is too nervous to overtake?

 

[emmerson2]

lord B, whilst I agree with you re slow tractors (and as I delivered in rural Herefordshire for the Queen for ten years, I think I'm qualified to judge!), how often is the problem exacerbated (!) by having a driver who is too nervous to overtake?

Sorry, that should have read "nervous driver following the tractor"

 

[Lord Braykewynde]

I couldn't agree more Emmerson that they do exist but by far the main culprits are the tractor drivers who won't pull in, come hell or high water. As you know, Herefordshire roads are some of the worse in the country, they are either laid down on old tram routes or stage coach routes and don't encourage safe overtaking. Let's take a road we both know well and a road I know for it's black spots after 30 years in the Ambulance Service. Coming from Abergavenny to Hereford the road is very good with lots of safe passing places and a good road surface as most of the roads in Wales are probably thanks to the English taxpayer, I wont get into politics now though ;O) hehheh! What happens when you get to the English/Welsh border at Llangua Bridge? How many safe overtaking places are there between Llangua Bridge and Hereford? The road is treacherous and have seen hundreds of fatal accidents. The deadliest spot is at the Tram Inn cross roads. I must have attended around twenty during my time on the A465 and they weren't all due to icy driving conditions, most were in good weather. It goes with all the main trunk roads in Herefordshire, the A49, A40, A438, A465, and A4103. The only decent roads which pass through our county are the M50 and a few miles of the A40. Whatever happens though people will be still stuck up behind tractors as long as theres fuel to put in cars :O) the likes of us won't change things.

 

[NorfolkMike]

A tractor driver, when is conversation with the trafic police after a B.M.W. had struck the tractor while it was turning right as the B.M.W. was overtaking.Witnesses all stated that the tractor did not indicate its intention. (The B.M.W. was a right off and the driver dead.)

'But officer, he should have known, I always turn right here!!!.

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[Lord Braykewynde]

I couldn't agree more Emmerson that they do exist but by far the main culprits are the tractor drivers who won't pull in, come hell or high water. As you know, Herefordshire roads are some of the worse in the country, they are either laid down on old tram routes or stage coach routes and don't encourage safe overtaking. Let's take a road we both know well and a road I know for it's black spots after 30 years in the Ambulance Service. Coming from Abergavenny to Hereford the road is very good with lots of safe passing places and a good road surface as most of the roads in Wales are probably thanks to the English taxpayer, I wont get into politics now though ;O) hehheh! What happens when you get to the English/Welsh border at Llangua Bridge? How many safe overtaking places are there between Llangua Bridge and Hereford? The road is treacherous and have seen hundreds of fatal accidents. The deadliest spot is at the Tram Inn cross roads. I must have attended around twenty during my time on the A465 and they weren't all due to icy driving conditions, most were in good weather. It goes with all the main trunk roads in Herefordshire, the A49, A40, A438, A465, and A4103. The only decent roads which pass through our county are the M50 and a few miles of the A40. Whatever happens though people will be still stuck up behind tractors as long as theres fuel to put in cars :O) the likes of us won't change things.

.............. oops, sorry Steve in Leo, I forgot the A44. Another road that winds like a snake on heat until you get to the Welsh border near Old Radnor. With the exception of a couple of hairpins near Penybont its a good road to Aberystwyth.