Kevin go around your dealers and find the caravan that you like and ask him how much for a cash sale ,if he is not prepared to give you any thing ,go home and look on the caravan makers website and find out who sells there vans ,and send them all an email and ask them how much they will sell that van for on the road ,we moved to swansea in Wales 4 years ago so naturaly we went to our nearest dealer and asked the price for cash ,and he wouldnt give us a pound off on a bailey pageant Moselle ,yet i went to place just of junction 18 on the M4 and got the same caravan