Lord B., CliveV, et all - I will come clean on this topic as my conscence is now pricking me. I was not on the Irish Firewater last night but have just poured a home measure of Bushmills for myself. I think I have stirred the mire enough. I will admit to being the owner/master of three dogs over the years - a Corgi, Jack Russel and a Dalmation mongeral. Each dog lived to a fine age, the last one being over 17 when she passed away. The three dogs were half human and my wife and son cried for days after the dalmation (my son was too young to remember the others). In fact he lost a weeks work through her passing. My daughter has a Shelty (excuse spelling I think it is correct) from a dogs home and his only pet hate is the postman. He accepts all others no matter whether they be family or visiters. When my daughter is away on business not only do we have the grandchildren with us we also have the dog to babysit. Therefore as you will now probably gather my previous postings have been a wind up and I do like dogs, cats, etc. as well as caravans and 4x4s. Sorry if I have upset you but I looked upon it purely as a wind up.