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The Gatwick drone incidents appear to be deliberate because apparently there have been more incursions today.
An airline pilot interviewed on Radio 4's World at One programme said that the BALPA have been warning about the possibility of these occurrences for some considerable time, and we have now arrived at a situation whereby the travel plans of hundreds if not thousands of people are disrupted by an idiot with an agenda.
I'm not entirely convinced that the airport operators have created the chaos, they are responsible for the safety of aircraft and passengers and a drone incursion near an active runway would leave little choice other than to divert aircraft and close the runway.
There's talk of snipers being recruited to shoot down these drones, it's a pity that they are not allowed to shoot the idiots who are operating these UAV's so close to the airport.
 
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Parksy said:
The Gatwick drone incidents appear to be deliberate because apparently there have been more incursions today.
An airline pilot interviewed on Radio 4's World at One programme said that the BALPA have been warning about the possibility of these occurrences for some considerable time, and we have now arrived at a situation whereby the travel plans of hundreds if not thousands of people are disrupted by an idiot with an agenda.
I'm not entirely convinced that the airport operators have created the chaos, they are responsible for the safety of aircraft and passengers and a drone incursion near an active runway would leave little choice other than to divert aircraft and close the runway.
There's talk of snipers being recruited to shoot down these drones, it's a pity that they are not allowed to shoot the idiots who are operating these UAV's so close to the airport.

I agree with you on this. The airport operators and emergency services are damned if they do, and damned if they don’t. Without full knowledge of the situation they had little option but to divert flights. I can’t imagine the uproar that there would have been had an airliner been downed.
The situationally aware self guided drone is the answer to a terrorist dream, and more will be being done to counteract that threat.
 
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Although the name "Drone" is used, people forget about model aircraft and Helicopters which can be bought and flown, and can weigh much more than these Quad copters. These small unregistered aircraft, all have to follow air law, regarding usage, as per , air rifles, shotgun, motorcycles and cars. People who disrupt things are not normally registered.
 
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Although the name "Drone" is used, people forget about model aircraft and Helicopters which can be bought and flown, and can weigh much more than these Quad copters. These small unregistered aircraft, all have to follow air law, regarding usage, as per , air rifles, shotgun, motorcycles and cars. People who disrupt things are not normally registered.

I am surprised why the airports do not have "Drone" capture systems in effect. Or frequency control.
Now Heathrow IT system , has Shut down for a while.
 
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I live 6 miles from Gatwick and the word is that it is a heavy industrial drone that appears every time they have attempted to open the runway during the day.
Now lifted the restrictions on night flying to help clear the backlog when they catch the morons.

............It has been noticeably quiet today!
 
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EH52ARH said:
EH52ARH said:
Although the name "Drone" is used, people forget about model aircraft and Helicopters which can be bought and flown, and can weigh much more than these Quad copters. These small unregistered aircraft, all have to follow air law, regarding usage, as per , air rifles, shotgun, motorcycles and cars. People who disrupt things are not normally registered.

I am surprised why the airports do not have "Drone" capture systems in effect. Or frequency control.
Now Heathrow IT system , has Shut down for a while.

Could moor a Type 45 destroyer on the Thames. It’s weapons tracking radar picks up tennis ball sized objects at three times speed of sound, and Sea Viper takes them out. Better than Sea Wolf on my day !!
 
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For people interested in "Drones" and Medel aircraft here are the CAA regs
https://www.caa.co.uk/consumers/unmanned-aircraft-and-drones/.

AMEL. UK 66. 414541L
Old No 17116.
 

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The armed forces ought to deploy a UAV of their own, the sort that they use over Afghanistan and other war zones. They'd soon spot the perpetrator, even at night. One Hellfire missile later and hey presto! Gatwick is open again :evil:
 
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The armed forces ought to deploy a UAV of their own, the sort that they use over Afghanistan and other war zones. They'd soon spot the perpetrator, even at night. One Hellfire missile later and hey presto! Gatwick is open again :evil:

A hunter-killer drone, good idea. It strikes me that if caravanners can check their battery or turn on the heating by remote phone apps, a modified drone could get its control via 4G. So the pilot could be a long away from it.
 
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otherclive said:
Parksy said:
The armed forces ought to deploy a UAV of their own, the sort that they use over Afghanistan and other war zones. They'd soon spot the perpetrator, even at night. One Hellfire missile later and hey presto! Gatwick is open again :evil:

A hunter-killer drone, good idea. It strikes me that if caravanners can check their battery or turn on the heating by remote phone apps, a modified drone could get its control via 4G. So the pilot could be a long away from it.
What is unfolding is the number of drones involved, more than one. Control may be from many miles away, even outside the UK.
Don’t understand why they haven’t tried using shot guns to disable them rather than high velocity bullets which may cause collateral damage?
Who will pay the bill and the cost of lost holidays?
 
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Dustydog said:
otherclive said:
Parksy said:
The armed forces ought to deploy a UAV of their own, the sort that they use over Afghanistan and other war zones. They'd soon spot the perpetrator, even at night. One Hellfire missile later and hey presto! Gatwick is open again :evil:

A hunter-killer drone, good idea. It strikes me that if caravanners can check their battery or turn on the heating by remote phone apps, a modified drone could get its control via 4G. So the pilot could be a long away from it.
What is unfolding is the number of drones involved, more than one. Control may be from many miles away, even outside the UK.
Don’t understand why they haven’t tried using shot guns to disable them rather than high velocity bullets which may cause collateral damage?
Who will pay the bill and the cost of lost holidays?

Well since CAA has declared it an extraordinary event airlines will not pay out. Insurers should pay if passengers are insured. But I guess that from now on such events will either be excluded from travel insurance or require an extra premium.

Timely wake up call to our Government and security forces.
 

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I was listening to the Jeremy Vine programme on the car radio an hour ago but I had to switch off. The sandal wearing lentil munchers were on there, mostly from the Brighton area, and they were saying that if this airport disruption was an environmental protest the drone pilot should get a knighthood for helping to save the planet.
I'm all for doing my bit for the environment, but if the tree huggers think that the disruption of the holiday plans for at least 110,000 airline passengers at Christmas time is a good way to persuade people to be more aware of global warming and environmental issues I have a feeling that they may be sadly mistaken.
Animal rights activists overstepped the mark in the same way a few years ago. Public sympathy was broadly on their side until they began terrorising workers in a Staffordshire village and eventually digging up the remains of a deceased lady who was related to the owners of the business that they targeted.
Support for them immediately evaporated.
 
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Let’s hope the Authorities and Insurers listen to Chris Grayling :whistle:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-46632302
Gatwick is closed again, more drones :woohoo:
 
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Well, some one I know Said he couldn't see any other drones, flying when he was there. !!!

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