Inconsiderate Caravanners??????

[craigmurray]

Hi all, Me and the person i must obey have just come back from a wonderful long weekend away in our van. We always use Somers Wood caravan site in meriden (its adults only so peace from our and others kids) anyway a motorhome pulled up behind us (pitches are staggered ie grass for us is hard standing pitch for them) we have 2 well behaved dogs (rotti and a staffi) which we tie up outside when we are out there, anyway they constantly cut through our pitch to get to the dog walk with there poodle thingy....We are not anti-social in any way but try and be considerate to other campers where the dogs are concerned because alot of people dont like the breeds and we dont like to give people the opportunity to say "typical of that breed". I even rearranged our windbreak to stop them walking through but they were that ignorant that they walked round it and still crossed over our pitch maybe trying to wind our dogs up i dont know???? I know there is an unwritten rule that you dont walk over peoples pitches but people like that spoil things for everybody else.....Think id better get off my soap box and have a lie down lol.....

Anyone had the same experience????

 

[oldievanner]

In a word YES. We always try and pitch next to the dog walk so we don't traverse the site with the big black hairy thing(The Dog, not she who must be obeyed)as some people do not like dogs.I have no problem with this as I don't like some people!I have always assumed,like you,that there is an unwritten law about walking across pitches, but everyone seems to do it with or without dogs usually on the way to fill up the aquaroll or empty the toilet! Just what you want when your about to have your meal sitting outside.

 

[joeby]

i think i would have to say some thing to them .before i exploded

 

[oldievanner]

I have said a few words and got back alot of words mostly prefixed with "F" so now just ignore it.

 

[nrdonnelly]

Hi Craig,

We've had a lot queries about this sort of thing recently.

We've done a little piece in the August issue about being considerate but for some folk, it's just not their way. If someone insists on walking across my pitch, I offer a loud and clear 'good morning' as they walk through the pitch. It minimises the chances of recurrance.

I've always found that it works better than an undignified on-site slanging match...

Regards

Nigel Donnelly

Editor

Practical Caravan

 

[DanPaula]

Think I'd be extending my awning guy ropes has wide as they go, Dan.

 

[Willie2]

Craig

Set the dogs leads long enough to reach the borders of your pitch and they might think twice.

Willie

 

[LMH]

Hi Craig

As a fellow SBT owner and exhibitor of show dogs, (I also have a SBT x), I come across this situation quite regularly. Can't comment on the rottie, but here's my take on things.

I won't go into defending the breed as in my opinion, it needs no defense.

To get to the point, if I have my two on chains spiked into the ground and someone was walking their dog or dogs across my pitch, then I would approach them and ask them not to do it. I would also ask them not to do it whether or not I had the dogs with me. It's just bad manners. Short cut or not, no excuse.

Don't ever feel you have the need to defend whatever breed you own. If you are responsible like me, my two can be commanded to stay in the down position for as long as I want and I will release them when I want to, how many dog owners can say that?

Give me a well trained SBT, well socialised, assertive and obedient over a labrador or cocker spaniel any day.

There's some nutters around who are quite happy to walk fido in front of your dog just to wind it up, sad but true. If it floats their boat fine, but don't do it in front of me because I will deal with the owners.

Go caravanning, stake your dogs out if you want to and ask whoever is invading your pitch not to do so.

Kind regards

Lisa

 

[Auvergne]

Hi Craig

As a fellow SBT owner and exhibitor of show dogs, (I also have a SBT x), I come across this situation quite regularly. Can't comment on the rottie, but here's my take on things.

I won't go into defending the breed as in my opinion, it needs no defense.

To get to the point, if I have my two on chains spiked into the ground and someone was walking their dog or dogs across my pitch, then I would approach them and ask them not to do it. I would also ask them not to do it whether or not I had the dogs with me. It's just bad manners. Short cut or not, no excuse.

Don't ever feel you have the need to defend whatever breed you own. If you are responsible like me, my two can be commanded to stay in the down position for as long as I want and I will release them when I want to, how many dog owners can say that?

Give me a well trained SBT, well socialised, assertive and obedient over a labrador or cocker spaniel any day.

There's some nutters around who are quite happy to walk fido in front of your dog just to wind it up, sad but true. If it floats their boat fine, but don't do it in front of me because I will deal with the owners.

Go caravanning, stake your dogs out if you want to and ask whoever is invading your pitch not to do so.

Kind regards

Lisa

And you had the cheek to say "you sound more than a sweetie to me...." on my recent post Lisa!!

 

[craigmurray]

Hi Craig

As a fellow SBT owner and exhibitor of show dogs, (I also have a SBT x), I come across this situation quite regularly. Can't comment on the rottie, but here's my take on things.

I won't go into defending the breed as in my opinion, it needs no defense.

To get to the point, if I have my two on chains spiked into the ground and someone was walking their dog or dogs across my pitch, then I would approach them and ask them not to do it. I would also ask them not to do it whether or not I had the dogs with me. It's just bad manners. Short cut or not, no excuse.

Don't ever feel you have the need to defend whatever breed you own. If you are responsible like me, my two can be commanded to stay in the down position for as long as I want and I will release them when I want to, how many dog owners can say that?

Give me a well trained SBT, well socialised, assertive and obedient over a labrador or cocker spaniel any day.

There's some nutters around who are quite happy to walk fido in front of your dog just to wind it up, sad but true. If it floats their boat fine, but don't do it in front of me because I will deal with the owners.

Go caravanning, stake your dogs out if you want to and ask whoever is invading your pitch not to do so.

Kind regards

Lisa

Hi all and thankyou for your comments i'm glad im not the only one who feels like this.....I think next time i will say something but to be honest i was there to relax and couldnt be bothered with the hassle because they were walking behind other peoples vans to get to the shower block so they were obviously totally ignorant....Mind you her that must be obeyed was ready to have a go (must be the northener in her lol). I totally understand what you are saying about defending the breeds lisa, it is the fact that rottis have had a lot of bad press lately that i didnt want to provoke a situation, ours are like yours well trained, behaved and totally social with people and animals. In fact when we had 3 dogs (another rotti, we lost the old gal 3 weeks ago) we were parked next to some people which we knew to say hello to and they didnt even realise we had dogs let alone 3.....And i tell you what does really get my goat is when people ignore the sign dogs must be kept on a lead at all times...Ha must only apply if you havent got a little fluffy yapper that you can carry so its little legs dont get to tired???? (I do appologise to fluffy little yapper owners, i am only going on the ones i have come across)..Anyway me soap box is getting well used i need to make an extension to it i think...

Hve fun all bring on the warm weather weekends away and polite sociable caravanners like us

Craig

 

[craigmurray]

Hi all and thankyou for your comments i'm glad im not the only one who feels like this.....I think next time i will say something but to be honest i was there to relax and couldnt be bothered with the hassle because they were walking behind other peoples vans to get to the shower block so they were obviously totally ignorant....Mind you her that must be obeyed was ready to have a go (must be the northener in her lol). I totally understand what you are saying about defending the breeds lisa, it is the fact that rottis have had a lot of bad press lately that i didnt want to provoke a situation, ours are like yours well trained, behaved and totally social with people and animals. In fact when we had 3 dogs (another rotti, we lost the old gal 3 weeks ago) we were parked next to some people which we knew to say hello to and they didnt even realise we had dogs let alone 3.....And i tell you what does really get my goat is when people ignore the sign dogs must be kept on a lead at all times...Ha must only apply if you havent got a little fluffy yapper that you can carry so its little legs dont get to tired???? (I do appologise to fluffy little yapper owners, i am only going on the ones i have come across)..Anyway me soap box is getting well used i need to make an extension to it i think...

Hve fun all bring on the warm weather weekends away and polite sociable caravanners like us

Craig

 

[LMH]

Hi Craig, sorry to hear about the rottie you lost.

Just remember though, you don't know how competent or incompetent other dog owners are.

Having had a dog of mine quite badly injured at the age of ten months by an idiot in charge of a large dog aggressive dog, I trust no ones ability to control their dog now. That was the day I learnt how to separate two dogs by cutting off the air supply. Not fun.

Take care.

Lisa

 

[LMH]

Hi Craig, sorry to hear about the rottie you lost.

Just remember though, you don't know how competent or incompetent other dog owners are.

Having had a dog of mine quite badly injured at the age of ten months by an idiot in charge of a large dog aggressive dog, I trust no ones ability to control their dog now. That was the day I learnt how to separate two dogs by cutting off the air supply. Not fun.

Take care.

Lisa

GRAMMAR! Clarification - Man idoiot - dog did damage.

 

[LMH]

Hi Craig

As a fellow SBT owner and exhibitor of show dogs, (I also have a SBT x), I come across this situation quite regularly. Can't comment on the rottie, but here's my take on things.

I won't go into defending the breed as in my opinion, it needs no defense.

To get to the point, if I have my two on chains spiked into the ground and someone was walking their dog or dogs across my pitch, then I would approach them and ask them not to do it. I would also ask them not to do it whether or not I had the dogs with me. It's just bad manners. Short cut or not, no excuse.

Don't ever feel you have the need to defend whatever breed you own. If you are responsible like me, my two can be commanded to stay in the down position for as long as I want and I will release them when I want to, how many dog owners can say that?

Give me a well trained SBT, well socialised, assertive and obedient over a labrador or cocker spaniel any day.

There's some nutters around who are quite happy to walk fido in front of your dog just to wind it up, sad but true. If it floats their boat fine, but don't do it in front of me because I will deal with the owners.

Go caravanning, stake your dogs out if you want to and ask whoever is invading your pitch not to do so.

Kind regards

Lisa

Sorry Val.

Lisa

 

[craigmurray]

Hi Craig, sorry to hear about the rottie you lost.

Just remember though, you don't know how competent or incompetent other dog owners are.

Having had a dog of mine quite badly injured at the age of ten months by an idiot in charge of a large dog aggressive dog, I trust no ones ability to control their dog now. That was the day I learnt how to separate two dogs by cutting off the air supply. Not fun.

Take care.

Lisa

I know what you mean Lisa, how is your dog after the attack? any mental scaring regards other dogs? I dont know about you but i hate those extendy lead things, people seem to think its fine to let out to their full extent and let there dog go where ever and do what ever it likes....My youngest rotti got wrapped up in 3 extendy leads because the woman let her yorkshire yappers stray onto our pitch, luckily macy kept her calm while i sorted it out, and the woman looked at me as if it was my fault it had happened....

Take care have fun

craig

 

[LMH]

Hi Craig, sorry to hear about the rottie you lost.

Just remember though, you don't know how competent or incompetent other dog owners are.

Having had a dog of mine quite badly injured at the age of ten months by an idiot in charge of a large dog aggressive dog, I trust no ones ability to control their dog now. That was the day I learnt how to separate two dogs by cutting off the air supply. Not fun.

Take care.

Lisa

Hi Craig, he was fine thanks after swift attention from the vet and stitches, antibiotics. I applied aloe vera to the scars when the stitches came out. It didn't affect his temperament at all, that was my main concern. Although as you know with an entire male SBT it can take up to the dog reaching the age of 2.5 years until you can get a good idea of its proper temperament. Glad to say he's just over that period now.

I am a member of a few bull breed forums and coupled with showing and doing obedience, god, some of the stories I've heard in relation to stupid owners. They have no concept of the power of bull breeds. They also have no respect for our breed too, or you could say, their own dogs judging by their stupidity.

Lisa

 

[craigmurray]

Hi Craig, he was fine thanks after swift attention from the vet and stitches, antibiotics. I applied aloe vera to the scars when the stitches came out. It didn't affect his temperament at all, that was my main concern. Although as you know with an entire male SBT it can take up to the dog reaching the age of 2.5 years until you can get a good idea of its proper temperament. Glad to say he's just over that period now.

I am a member of a few bull breed forums and coupled with showing and doing obedience, god, some of the stories I've heard in relation to stupid owners. They have no concept of the power of bull breeds. They also have no respect for our breed too, or you could say, their own dogs judging by their stupidity.

Lisa

its the same with rotti's to, people dont understand the breed and how dominant they can be and therefore spoiling a perfectly good dog. We met a family once who had a rotti pup (6 months ish) and they couldnt control it restrain it or do anything with it, it wasnt nasty but they said they didnt need dog training classes as they could do it themselves, ha that was a joke but its people like that, that give the breed a bad name....Our local rspca website (coventry) have got 4 rottis in and they got a headline "Rottis dont make good companions.....What a load of rubbish" there words not mine.....Do you get any negative comments from people when out walking yr staffi's???

 

[RichardJ]

Hiya Mate

In full agreement, we always walk round, I cannot ever recall a time when my wife or I crossed anyones pitch.

It has happened to us once or twice, but nayb'e it was the look I gave them, they didn,t do it again.

 

[craigmurray]

hi lisa i did reply to your reply but either it got deleted or it didnt submit?? i cant remember what i wrote now lol sorry

 

[LMH]

hi lisa i did reply to your reply but either it got deleted or it didnt submit?? i cant remember what i wrote now lol sorry

Hi Craig

Your reply is tucked up above, behind the comments.

We usually get:

'Is that a pit bull?'

'Is that a real Staffy?, my mate's is bigger than that'

'Shouldn't that dog be muzzled?'

'Is it true what they say about them?'

However, talking about negative comments, this was the best but I'll make an exception as I think the girl who made the comments had some serious issues and needed to see a psychologist (she was aged about nine).

I was speaking with the girl's mother (gypsy family).

Girl asks: 'Shouldn't that dog be muzzled?'

Me: 'No, it's not one of the breeds on the Dangerous Dogs Act'

She replies in a strong Irish accent:

'I hate them dogs, they bite people, they are nasty, nasty dogs. If that was my dog, I'd take a big stick to it and beat it and get two bricks and smash it on the head till it was dead'.

For the first time in my life, I was speechless! LOL!!

Lisa

 

[LMH]

Hi Craig

As a fellow SBT owner and exhibitor of show dogs, (I also have a SBT x), I come across this situation quite regularly. Can't comment on the rottie, but here's my take on things.

I won't go into defending the breed as in my opinion, it needs no defense.

To get to the point, if I have my two on chains spiked into the ground and someone was walking their dog or dogs across my pitch, then I would approach them and ask them not to do it. I would also ask them not to do it whether or not I had the dogs with me. It's just bad manners. Short cut or not, no excuse.

Don't ever feel you have the need to defend whatever breed you own. If you are responsible like me, my two can be commanded to stay in the down position for as long as I want and I will release them when I want to, how many dog owners can say that?

Give me a well trained SBT, well socialised, assertive and obedient over a labrador or cocker spaniel any day.

There's some nutters around who are quite happy to walk fido in front of your dog just to wind it up, sad but true. If it floats their boat fine, but don't do it in front of me because I will deal with the owners.

Go caravanning, stake your dogs out if you want to and ask whoever is invading your pitch not to do so.

Kind regards

Lisa

Val - I take my apology back seeing what you've written on Patey's thread.

 

[sandy_374363922]

Regardless to whether you have dogs or not, it is inconsiderate to take short cuts through other peoples personal space.

 

[ShadySadie]

I have always considered that I pay to use a site for the night, the payment does not mean you own the pitch.

It can be annoying if others encroach on your space, but I tell them ifthey are repeat offenders.

I've had black looks from some caravanners when pulling an Aquaroll along the grass rather than it rumbling along road ways thus disturbing other caravanners. I've also had some funny looks when my front wheels have had to go onto another pitch when reversing the caravan. I even had one miserable cow confront me as I was threading my EHU cable along the hedge to the rear of their caravan as they arrived back from a day out, apparently I should have asked their permission before crossing to the electricity supply. The site owner soon put her straight.

At times you have to live and let live with no worrying aout size of dogs or brands and petty rivalries,if we don't like the people around us or their behaviour we just move on.

 

[Auvergne]

Hi Craig

As a fellow SBT owner and exhibitor of show dogs, (I also have a SBT x), I come across this situation quite regularly. Can't comment on the rottie, but here's my take on things.

I won't go into defending the breed as in my opinion, it needs no defense.

To get to the point, if I have my two on chains spiked into the ground and someone was walking their dog or dogs across my pitch, then I would approach them and ask them not to do it. I would also ask them not to do it whether or not I had the dogs with me. It's just bad manners. Short cut or not, no excuse.

Don't ever feel you have the need to defend whatever breed you own. If you are responsible like me, my two can be commanded to stay in the down position for as long as I want and I will release them when I want to, how many dog owners can say that?

Give me a well trained SBT, well socialised, assertive and obedient over a labrador or cocker spaniel any day.

There's some nutters around who are quite happy to walk fido in front of your dog just to wind it up, sad but true. If it floats their boat fine, but don't do it in front of me because I will deal with the owners.

Go caravanning, stake your dogs out if you want to and ask whoever is invading your pitch not to do so.

Kind regards

Lisa

Lisa, its your choice to take your apology back. However, its a fantastic example of the point I am making. I have posted nothing rude or derrogatory about anyone or anything, I just happen to have a different opinion to the one you hold. Because of my opinion you become disrespectful towards me as a person. Thats where the whole thing falls down. We may not always agree with each other but seeing varying opinions displayed appropriately gives us an opportunity to grow and change if we choose. If we close our eyes to others opinions there is a danger of becoming self centred and judgemental of those around us.

 

[Legsmaniac_374344731]

Good reply, Sadie, I'm in agreement with that.

Just what is this "our pitch" that some caravanners seem to insist on? I thought caravanners were supposed to be a friendly bunch, always willing to help one another? I'm currently staying in Exmouth on a site owned by the National Trust and everyone here are really friendly, walking over to one another and asking how people are and how they're doing.

Except one. This is a caravan parked in a secluded corner of the hedges and have surrounded themselves with windbreaks. Yes, surrounded. They keep themselves to themselves and no one bothers to pop over to them. Nuff said? I hate windbreaks and think they are very unfriendly.

I believe that you pay for the privilege of plonking your lump of metal on their land and don't own the site or your pitch.