Brian its quite easy to do if you have the tools and this site is one of the easiest to crack. All it takes is a script kiddie with time on his hands to write the programme. On the MSN site I had tools to do it, a Multiple Nic Generator. I also had an Unban programme but only used that a few time when banned by a certain Moderator who from yesterday is no more because of her abuse of the tools shes provided with by Microsoft. There was also a flood tool where you could post repetitively until you crashed the room, only trouble was the perpetrator was the only one left in there so it was easy for the Zone Police to know who it was. There was a Clone Tool too but it wasnt exact enough. I also knew how to talk in the Lobby, where all the chat is, and do it under someone elses nic and that was hilarious. You would get comments like " Hey I never said that, get out everyone theres hackers in the room, HACKERS EVERYONE ALL OUT". lmaaoooooo. Next thing you would see about 50 leave sharpish. There was no harm in it, it was just the prankster coming out of me. If you was sat playing you could post words for your opponents like "why did you play that card for you chithead", then sit back and watch them argue heheheh! Gawd there was many a time I almost piddled myself :O( At the moment Microsoft have got it all sown up and the little script kiddies cant crack it but with this site being the most basic they would have a field day. Hotmail, MSN, and Yahoo email addies are 1000 a penny so if Kanga wants to be bothered all he does is create a new addy. I'm sure if Haymarket Towers banned anyones ISP they wouldnt be able to access the site. Thats what MSN does and anyone must be desperate if they want to change servers just so they could get back in.