The green taxes motoring con

[rayc]

We were told the new car duty rates were to save the planet

"2.5bn 'Eco Stealth Tax' On Cars

New green road tax bands 'will have virtually no impact on environment'

New green tax could have little impactA £2.5billion green tax on cars will barely cut emissions at all, it has been claimed.

Chancellor Alistair Darling announced in the latest Budget that six more tax bands will be introduced that will target cars that produce the most carbon dioxide.

It has been estimated that annual income from duty will rise from £1.9billion to £4.4billion by 2010 - a rise of £2.5billion - as a result.

However the Tories claim they have uncovered figures from Parliamentary questions that show that emissions from motoring are expected to drop by less than 1%.

From April 2010 drivers buying cars that emit the highest levels of carbon dioxide, such as sports cars, will be hit with a 'showroom tax' of up to £950.

Conservative Treasury spokesman Justine Greening, who uncovered the figures, said: 'This is a massive tax hike which will have virtually no impact on the environment.

'Despite their claims, the Government don't expect this move to change behaviour at all - it is just another eco stealth tax of the worst kind.'

Edmund King, of the AA, said: 'This just benefits the Treasury coffers, not the environment.'"

 

[colin(bridgend)]

This is a total con. All it is doing is playing up to the "green" eco warriors - the minority who are throwing their weight around and the Government is cow towing to them.There is very little evidence to show that the emissions from vehicles is having a detrimental effect on the atmosphere. What they want is for us all to return to the dark ages of no form of transport except by foot. They cannot afford these cars so no one else should own one. How do they get to their meetings/demonstrations, etc. - by transport beit car or public transport. If they feel so strong about the environment why dont they sod off to a remote island and lead their green life and leave us to continue a normal life.

 

[giovanni_5060838]

Have my doubts about climate change and the link to us.

Have you noticed how the global warming statement has now changed to a statement concerning climate change!.Two totally different topics!!!

Why? cause global warming is not happening,and climate change is something that has always happened and always will.We certainly do not have the power to make any drastic change to it what so ever.

As for the car tax issue,and the claim by the tories that these taxes will make,very little difference in co2 output.

Well like i said don't believe in the whole thing anyway,but nevertheless the tories are talking utter rubbish,with concern for lowering co2 output by motor vehicles.

You see car manufacturers have actually made and are still making huge cuts in cars co2 levels, be it big cars or little ones.

So how the daft tories can say they only expect a drop of 1% when the car manufacturers have made 10 to 15% improvements in co2 with there latist range of engines[with more to come]is beyond me.

But then maybe they are still using facts and figures from the 80s!

 

[colin-yorkshire]

good idea colin which one???

it will have to be a least 30mtrs above sea level though.

B.T.W. keep wearing those goggles or you will get sand in yer eyes.

 

[rayc]

Gio,said "So how the daft tories can say they only expect a drop of 1% when the car manufacturers have made 10 to 15% improvements in co2 with there latist range of engines[with more to come]is beyond me".

It was not the tories saying it. It was in the treasury discussuion papers that were released under the foi act.

The fact that cars are 10 - 15% more efficient, but the estimated drop is only 1% is because new cars make up a small amount oif the total vehicle mileage.

 

[giovanni_5060838]

rayc.

Cars do not make up a small part of the entire co2 figures for motoring.

Which is actually what is being discussed.

But lets look at the others,trucks, which again with all new trucks being euro 3, and companies working on euro 4 and even euro5, all new trucks will also be far more greener than just a few years ago.

Now add to that the speed restrictions already in place on 7.5 tonne vehicles registered since 2005[another big saving in co2 just based on the 20% better mpg they will get doing 56mph max on m/ways rather than the 60/70 mph they could do before,and 1% that the tories "claim" to have found in that report means its not worth the paper its written on.

Now red kens done his bit too,as no lorries may enter the charge zone that are not euro3[well they can enter but at 200 notes a shot!,so not likely] so even more old lorries will be replaced by euro3 or4 lorries.

Like i said 1% diference, yea right...

 

[ShadySadie]

USA news of the week - Americans are angry and going mad as fuel has reached 50p per litre in one state and has rocketed to 47p in others. Combined with their frugal vehicles and UK policies we'll all be saved.

You are spot on ray(c), another green con.

 

[Robert_374242026]

Intresting film/documentry on Sky last night, Al Gore showed all the figures about how all has changed on our planet and what America is waking up to. Any one else see it?.

 

[GrahamSouthBrum]

Does any one think that the Tories will lower any of the motoring taxes when not if they get in.

And when they get in will it be out of the frying pan & into the fire for us.

 

[colin-yorkshire]

why is it that the biggest poluters are the ones doing most of the moaning?? easy solution polute less pay less simple