Tyre recommendations

[JTQ]

FYI: Ovation V-02 175/R14C 99/98 R

Its just that when I search for them a lot of hits are for lower profile versions. E.g 70 or 65.

I have never heard of a low aspect ratio ‘C’ tyre.

These two bits seem in direct conflict, Lutz, with his industry insight not being aware of "C" being available in lower aspect, but Sam finding a lot of them when specifying R14C.

Odd, therefore, possibly worth Sam "drilling down" for more creditable info on the maker's own website for particular recommendations he likes of those that venders are putting up?

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EDIT:
This venders web site LINK, when inputting the v_o2 Ovation's width 175 comes up with just an 80 "profile" which I take as aspect ratio, along with just a 14" rim.

 

[Lutz]

The way I understood Sam’s posts, all the tyres that he found below an 80 aspect ratio were without the ‘C’ mark.

 

[JTQ]

The way I understood Sam’s posts, all the tyres that he found below an 80 aspect ratio were without the ‘C’ mark.

Okay I had not picked that up, taking he was searching on like for like ie 175/R14C 99/98 R, rather than just 175/R14.
Anyway, it appears with a high level of confidence, his present tyres are 80% aspect ratio, that fits without conflict with your observation, re "C" rating.

I do share Sam's reticence re adjusting the mover's clearance. In my case finding the poorly made clamping block made it into the likes of a punch tool, significantly indenting the chassis rail. This made making a small correction and then effectively re-clamping a risk. As an engineer I made spacers to go between the blocks and mover mountings. All because of the cheap skate through drilling of the threaded hole in the block to cut out using more than a single tap tool.

 

[Sam Vimes]

The way I understood Sam’s posts, all the tyres that he found below an 80 aspect ratio were without the ‘C’ mark.

Correct.

It's the usual case of searching for something specific but being offered something close because the vendor doesn't have the exact thing you asked for.

Sort of clickbait.

Like searching Tesco's for Cheese and being offered Shaving Foam because they ordered too much and want to get rid of it.

 

[Gafferbill]

......several posters in this thread have advised that the convention is that if the aspect ratio is not printed on the tyre or displayed in the description then the aspect ratio is 80.
The OP simply needs 175 R14 tyres with a load index of 95 or higher making sure a lower aspect ratio than 80 is not quoted.
The tyre may or may not have a C mark.....the load index is the critical tyre marking.
Load indexes for any caravan tyre load are shown in post #28

 

[otherclive]

I'm tempted to do just that although they seem to be not easily available to me. Also they may not be the best, as one has an odd wear pattern on it. This is really why I was looking for the exact spec to see what alternatives there are.

FYI: Ovation V-02 175/R14C 99/98 R

Despite any real evidence that states these are 80% profile tyres I'm pretty certain they are. Its just that when I search for them a lot of hits are for lower profile versions. E.g 70 or 65. So I'm worried that despite ticking the box for just a 175/R14C I might get shipped something different. While this wouldn't be my problem sorting it out would be.

I’ve never had a problem buying the caravan tyres on line. I used Blackcircles and the spec clearly spelt out they were 80% C aspect ratio, by not having a lower aspect ratio on the order form. Alternatively I once used a mobile fitter who was supplying the tyres and again the purchase order gave C and no aspect ratio.

 

[Dustydog]

Do they have mobile fitters on Skye🙀

 

[AndrewAventura]

Lots of forum threads turn out more interesting than you expect them to be! I always thought that labelling of the aspect ratio on tyres was a given, but clearly not. And no clear answer what the exact value should be for a 'standard' aspect ratio.
That provoked me into a bit of searching, and it seems that in the USA it's quite common to specify 'ST' rated tyres for trailers. Designed for non-driven axles, low rolling resistance, high sustained load capacity and interestingly, stiff sidewalls to reduce trailer swaying. The suppliers warn against fitting car or light truck tyres on trailers.
The rationale all seems quite reasonable, but I'd never heard of any tyres specific to trailers here. But looking harder I just found this website Terrain Tyres and a huge range of tyres there, including some specifically targeted at caravan type applications with construction similar to those US ST ones.

 

[otherclive]

Lots of forum threads turn out more interesting than you expect them to be! I always thought that labelling of the aspect ratio on tyres was a given, but clearly not. And no clear answer what the exact value should be for a 'standard' aspect ratio.
That provoked me into a bit of searching, and it seems that in the USA it's quite common to specify 'ST' rated tyres for trailers. Designed for non-driven axles, low rolling resistance, high sustained load capacity and interestingly, stiff sidewalls to reduce trailer swaying. The suppliers warn against fitting car or light truck tyres on trailers.
The rationale all seems quite reasonable, but I'd never heard of any tyres specific to trailers here. But looking harder I just found this website Terrain Tyres and a huge range of tyres there, including some specifically targeted at caravan type applications with construction similar to those US ST ones.

I’ve post several times over the years wrt specific trailer tyres. Once I was even told there is no such thing they are just higher load index. In UK the tyres you mention will have FRT Free Rolling Tyre (trailer use only)with the limitations as per your post. On caravans I have had GT Radial Kargomax ST6000, and on a small pop top the Kenda equivalent. The picture below clearly shows FRT etc embossed on the sidewall.

I fitted them as I wanted toughness, and the last word in aquaplaning resistance or cornering wasn’t top of my priority. I have nonetheless seen some online tyre retailers offering GTRadial ST 6000 without caveating their usage limits.

Top brands and prices you'll love - RAC Tyres

Tyres fitted locally or delivered across the UK

www.ractyres.co.uk

PS this is not a C tyre but just presented to demonstrate the FRT embossing. But GT Radial ST 6000 are C rated with 80% aspect ratio.

 

[Dustydog]

Sam,
I bet you wish you never asked🙀
What have you chosen🤔

 

[AndrewAventura]

The way I understood Sam’s posts, all the tyres that he found below an 80 aspect ratio were without the ‘C’ mark.

So I just took a look at mytyres.co.uk.

Limiting the search to 175 wide R14C tyres, you can select tyres with an unspecified aspect ratio. Or you can select 175/65, 175/70, 175/75 or 175/80.

It's worse than lightbulbs!

 

[Sam Vimes]

Do they have mobile fitters on Skye🙀

My local garage is only 8 miles away. Most of the mechanics are pretty mobile and have no problems crawling under cars etc. 😉

 

[Sam Vimes]

Sam,
I bet you wish you never asked🙀
What have you chosen🤔

Well it's been interesting.

As for choice it's confused.com.

Most of the names I've come across I've never heard of. I'll probably just give the size and price range to our local garage and see what they come up with.

 

[Gafferbill]

......if you do that you could end up with the wrong tyres.
You need to specify a load index of 95 at least for your 1200kgs caravan.

 

[Lutz]

......if you do that you could end up with the wrong tyres.
You need to specify a load index of 95 at least for your 1200kgs caravan.

90 actually, everything above that is up to you. A tyre rated at 600kg already has a an adequate safety margin.