Bailey Pegasus

[Mikey1]

Why should buiding vans more quickly lower quality? If it is the build method that gives the saving in build time quality is an independant variable and should not be affected. Viz Nissan, Honda, Mazda etc.

It seems items have been fitted for speed ie outside plastic covers and cheap looking plastic internal quadrant covering the bolts.

 

[BrianStAlbans]

Actually Mikey there is a water master socket to connect your pump to to use an aquaroll.

 

[Mikey1]

Im sorry i stand to be corrected but whats the point of a removeable on board tank which is smaller size than an aquaroll and too heavy to lift into the van

 

[BrianStAlbans]

Personally can't see the point of an on board tank anyway ,so would rather have one I could take out an use the space.

 

[WatsonJohnG]

Im sorry i stand to be corrected but whats the point of a removeable on board tank which is smaller size than an aquaroll and too heavy to lift into the van

That's one reason we ordered the Senator

 

[WatsonJohnG]

Personally can't see the point of an on board tank anyway ,so would rather have one I could take out an use the space.

I wouldn't be without my onboard tank especially in winter frost

 

[Dustydog]

The onboard water tank in our Senator is a must have imo.

Makes winter touring so easy and the shower has far more delivery pressure than when the water is drawn direct from the aquaroll.

Cheers

Dustydog

 

[Mikey1]

I wouldnt be without my either,as for space i think Swift have got the right idea and position it under the van.

With the removable tank you wouldnt want to travel with it full as it would be unsecured,if you put it in the car you might as well just use the Aquaroll.

 

[Dustydog]

Just got back from Chipping Sodbury caravans.

No new Pageants or Senators on dislplay.

Had another good look at the Pegasus. Bodily the structure does look slick but where on earth will I store my wooden planks for levelling? Don't like that front gas only locker box.

Again the level of trim is definitely below that of the Senator range, indeed I'd question whether it is better than the current Pageants.

Oh well, nothing like progress.

Cheers

Dustydog

 

[Parksy]

I have to say that although so far I've only seen the Pegasus at the NEC exhibition I was disappointed with the unfinished look of the interior walls and I couldn't live with the front locker. We will take a ride out to our local Bailey dealers to have a better look around the Pegasus but so far the major selling point seems to be the Alu tech construction.

 

[RayS]

I've been following this thrad with interest - thanks to all contributors. Without seeing the van itself, my major concern would be the need to re-tighten the body bolts every two years requiring dealer service. One would hope that the originals were fitted with lock or antivibration nuts and correctly torqued in the first place.

is it likely that the correct torque figure will be published which would permit an Approved Workshop or even a competant owner to do the job themselves - hopefully the access can't be all that difficult ?

 

[Mikey1]

Unless of course the bolts are behind the one piece shower unit?

We are still waiting for Bailey to come back to us with an answer,the dealers dont seem to know,or do Baileys not know either?

 

[BrianStAlbans]

Just to clear up the service question for you. Years 1 and 2 are a standard service less damp check above floor level which is not required. Year 3 is the same but plus a quality control check of the nuts.

Year 4 onwards is a standard service .

It is ONLY year 3 that the nuts are checked.

Brian

 

[Mikey1]

You still have to get to the nuts behind the shower unit if its once or 5 times.

The cost for the pleasure of this 3 yr service is

 

[Mikey1]

Just to clear up the service question for you. Years 1 and 2 are a standard service less damp check above floor level which is not required. Year 3 is the same but plus a quality control check of the nuts.

Year 4 onwards is a standard service .

It is ONLY year 3 that the nuts are checked.

Brian

What have you cleared up Brian?

 

[BrianStAlbans]

Sorry Mikey , my reply was to Ray.

(note to self , must learn to type faster.)

Brian

 

[Dustydog]

I had a good look this morning and short of removing the built in shower unit , I cannot see how you can possibly get to the "NUTS / BOLTS".

Please will Kelly Watts answer Mikey's original question?

Kelly I hope you guys at Bailey know where these little critters are. LOL/

Cheers

Dustydog

 

[Royston]

A question that nobody seems to be able to answer, how have the experts arrived at the solution, that it is, The third repeat Third Service only that requires the assembly nuts to be checked for the correct torque.

For the people who seem to change every two years there is no problem, The lack of technical information from Baileys with regards to the various questions asked is a bit worrying to say the least.

The reason that i am asking this question is I do quite a lot of towing mileage each year, do not want a van to fall apart on route through vibration causing the nuts to slacken.

At this point in time I consider Swifts to be the only option for a safe purchase.

Royston

 

[MichaelE]

My local dealer is saying they havent shifted as many as they had hoped.People are comparing the quality with a Pagent which is 2 1/2 k cheaper.

He said the 10 yr warranty will only come into its own in the secondhand market when people are looking at 5 yr old vans,from his experience people who buy new vans change around the 3-5 yr mark so the 10 yr ingress isnt a big selling point to them,they prefer to buy a van that looks and feels good.

People have always associated Baileys with quality at a very good price but with the top Pegasus model at 18 1/2 k they are competing with most other top models now.Looking around they have their work cut out.

 

[RichardS1]

This week I passed a couple of Pegasus vans on the motorway being delivred to a dealer from the factory. The van being towed had a large protective sheet over the front which was obviously to protect the aluminium front from stone damage. If Bailey have to do this to protect the van while delivering it does make you wonder what the front panel will look like after it has been towed a few thousand mile.

 

[trucker]

perhaps bailey are going to supply front covers for towing to protect the vans, if not they may very well look like 12 bore target areas lol

Kevin

 

[WatsonJohnG]

You can get them for 4X4s and they are called CAR BRAS

Possibly an opening for CARABRAS

Anne Summers may stock them

 

[WatsonJohnG]

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[Royston]

Thanks for the info john, you learn something everyday, it would have saved me a lot of agro had i known about this product.

Royston

 

[ValA.]

One of the companies which makes caravan covers is now also doing these front covers which can be used whilst towing. I think it was Specialised Accessories.

We enquired about them at the Caravan Show at the NEC last month. They fit by attaching straps on a section of awning tape into the side channel of the awning rail, and then buckling the straps through the front cover and tensioning. They have a strap around the A frame to stop the cover rising up whilst towing, and if I remember they weren't too expensive. We certainly thought them worth it, even if just to keep the front window clean of insect debris which is a problem when we tow through France.