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Caravelair Ambiance 450 style, 2007. Advice please

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Hi guys, after looking for a caravan layout that suits our needs for a while now, we have found a Caravelair Ambiance 450 on a well known auction site. It's in budget, has a mover and large awning. Just what we are looking for.....but it's made in france.
Has anyone had any experience with these? Would being French made cause any problems on UK campsites?
Thanks for any advice. :)
 
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Probably not until after April 2019, when we Brexit!

I've had French built Trigano since last Autumn and whilst only being used three times there was never any issue with CC or C&CC over the door being on the "wrong side". Before its first trip out I contacted the CC HQ and specifically asked if there would be any concerns and the answer was "no". That was as I expected as I have seen foreign made and foreign owned vans on UK sites all with their A-frames pointing to the front of the pitch just like UK vans.
 
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There does not seem to be any problem with the door being on the wrong side on sites. The caravans are so cheap though that I would want to check the quality though. The magazines long term test one had the blinds falling off when first taken out and that was on a caravan they knew was going to a magazine.
Given the age and while I have no evidence of them being subject to leaks as with all second hand purchases a damp test is essential. Before parting with any cash make sure you see the caravan and that it is in the condition advertised and everything works and details of all servicing and other work on it.
You should also get the chassis number and check it against HPI records and get absolute proof of ownership as if it is on HP or stolen then the seller has no rights to sell it. If everything is not in order walk away. Good luck with it though.
 
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The chassis number will be a french VIN code, which if its anything like my Trigano you cannot identify the year by the usual sequence of letter and numbers, despite what some may tell you. So look at the original bill of sale and the certificate of compliance from the maker/importer. Although it can be that the original sale date is well after the date it was made. Look at the tyres for age/date of manufacture they may still be original (in which case buy new before towing) Inside the furnishings may have tabs on them which shows when they were made. Also plastic mouldings generally have the month and date of manufacture....windows, Thetford, light housings etc. So its not too difficult to reconcile paperwork with year of manufacture. Use the internet and you can often find the makers brochures which show the specification/ furnishing colours so does this support the year?

Regarding HPI checks if the caravan hasn't been CRIS registered you cannot check the CRIS register for theft,HPI, write off etc. You can CRIS register foreign imported caravans and it took about 3-4 weeks but you then become the first register owner. You get window security stickers and VIN RFD chips to place in the caravan.

Check the a-frame VIN is the same as on the makers plate which will be fixed to the A-frame. If its like the Trigano Silver I had the makers plate only gives three sets of information. The MTPLM, the max axle weight and the max noseweight. MIRO/ex works weights were not shown. The UK importers may well have added equipment to the van to suit the UK market, so ex works doesn't necessarily tally with MIRO.

Lastly whilst the chassis, running gear, lights and internal equipment are likely to be common with this fitted to UK caravans, the body panels and parts and specific internal fittings will be unique to this make. I think that they would be far more difficult to obtain either as new or used than would be the case with a UK caravan, and there is unlikely to be a very large Owner Forum to assist.

If its the one on Ebay then buying from a Dealer will give some assurance on several of the points that I have raised and they should be able to answer any queries that you have. It does look to be in good condition, and from the internals the upholstery patterns are the same as my 2008 Trigano from the same makers Group. I note that the web advert doesn't indicate that its CRIS, but the dealer can advise and could sort this out as a condition of purchase. At that price there are some decent UK Baileys which may be a couple of years older but may be worth considering if the towcar/licence/weight aspects can be aligned.
 
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Thats great info guys, thanks! Yes, it's the one on ebay. I've done a bit of homework and i'm aware that they are a cheaper make of caravan so I'm going in with my eyes open. Thanks for all the advice.
 
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