Polestar 4 Long Range Dual Motor as a tow car

[Mr Plodd]

One vital bit of information missing was the cost of a new Polestar 4. So I have looked it up, and they START at £60k The long range dual motor version is £66k !!!
See here
That is stratosphericaly beyond my means, and I suspect that of the vast majority of forum members as well.
Just saying!

 

[RogerL]

One vital bit of information missing was the cost of a new Polestar 4. So I have looked it up, and they START at £60k The long range dual motor version is £66k !!!
See here
That is stratosphericaly beyond my means, and I suspect that of the vast majority of forum members as well.
Just saying!

Less than 20% of UK car sales are new cars - the majority buy secondhand and let someone else take the big depreciation hit.

I wonder what the % of UK caravan sales are new caravans.

 

[borderbilly]

Less than 20% of UK car sales are new cars - the majority buy secondhand and let someone else take the big depreciation hit.

I wonder what the % of UK caravan sales are new caravans.

I reckon new caravans sales are 100%, what with the great build quality and no running back to dealers. yes definitely 100%.

 

[otherclive]

Sorry for joining the thread drift but pray please tell where electricity generation comes from on a windless winters night? And, if all this renewable tech is so virtuous and cheap then why are the UK’s domestic electricity costs the most expensive in the world? Saving the planet is fine for those who can afford to be virtue signallers, however back in the real world most people cannot.

Just look at the annual figures for UK energy production and it’s quite obvious that solar doesn’t contribute at night, and on windless nights there’s nuclear, gas, bio and electrical connectors from Europe and Ireland. But the facts are indisputable that over 50% of UK energy production comes from renewable sources. As more installations and infrastructure come on line including HP2 , Sizewell C, SMRs and storage solutions the use of gas for electric generation will virtually disappear.

One area of common agreement is the need to divorce electric generation prices from global oil//gas prices.

 

[otherclive]

One vital bit of information missing was the cost of a new Polestar 4. So I have looked it up, and they START at £60k The long range dual motor version is £66k !!!
See here
That is stratosphericaly beyond my means, and I suspect that of the vast majority of forum members as well.
Just saying!

You will be okay in 3 years time buying a pre owned low mileage version. But I suspect used prices may start to stabilise more as folks overcome their apprehensions about full EVs.

 

[Tobes]

Whichever way you look at it some electric still comes from fossil fuel especially when there is no wind or solar. No one can get around or dispute the fact that at present trying to go net zero is destroying the country in more than one way! What is the point of trying to go net zero when pollution comes in from other sources out of our control? Agreed that we should protect the environment, but why destroy the environment at the same time with solar panels and wind farms neither of which help produce food? Surely a goal should be to become self sufficient in food before trying to go for a net zero goal myth?

The first statement is accurate. Some electricity (a diminishing minority) comes from fossil fuel.

The second statement- net zero is destroying the country in more than one way - has no basis in fact.

Neither solar nor wind farms prevent food production.

Presentation of net zero as a myth is a presentation of not understanding net zero.

 

[Tobes]

Sorry for joining the thread drift but pray please tell where electricity generation comes from on a windless winters night? And, if all this renewable tech is so virtuous and cheap then why are the UK’s domestic electricity costs the most expensive in the world? Saving the planet is fine for those who can afford to be virtue signallers, however back in the real world most people cannot.

Today, it would come from nuclear and/or gas. When was the last windless winters night?
UK electricity is expensive because we rely on gas for last kW generation and peg the cost of _all_ electricity to last kW price.
Thats a political and commercial decision, not a technical one. Break that link and on average the price goes down as consumers benefit from low cost renewable generation.

 

[Tobes]

One vital bit of information missing was the cost of a new Polestar 4. So I have looked it up, and they START at £60k The long range dual motor version is £66k !!!
See here
That is stratosphericaly beyond my means, and I suspect that of the vast majority of forum members as well.
Just saying!

Have you seen the price of a brand new Land Rover recently, a disco sport starts at 56k ? A brand new Santa Fe starts at over 45k.
The Polestar 4 competes with the Porsche Macanne E which start at an about the same price. None of these are cheap - indeed they are all very expensive cars. But they are all luxury market vehicles. Have a look at the CMC tow car of the year this year. The lowest price car is a mini electric countryman at 38k. Everything else is over 40k and the vast majority over 50k.
New cars are very expensive, independent of drive train.

I am not trying to justify the high cost, just to put it in perspective.

For what it’s worth, my previous Polestar 2 (55k new 4 years and 59,000 miles ago) was on autotrader for under 19k. It sold in a week.