Hear Hear, The caravaner shows a complete and utter disregard for his own safety and the safety of other road users 90mph towing a caravan you should not be on the roads and if caught banned for life.
I cannot believe that this drivell is being posted by a serious caravan owner,It must be a wind up merchant who wants to impress every one with how much money he has spent on this so called tow car. Walter Mitty springs to mind.
Steve W
Steve W
I agree with almost everything you have said Euro,except many people tow with cars that may not be entirely suited to towing,and more importantly in the case of this Bentley, how could a flat torque curve developing a massive 550Ft/Lb of torque at 1700 rpm not be classified as outstanding even by "quality tow car" standards?
Indeed I am now thinking if one had that sort of cash, and still intended to tow a caravan, Then the Bentley surely be up there with the very best of options available to one?
Indeed I am now thinking if one had that sort of cash, and still intended to tow a caravan, Then the Bentley surely be up there with the very best of options available to one?
Hi
If you're towing with a Flying Spur would defintely look for a good looking van with plenty of bling, would be a shame to put one of the normal tin sheds ion the back of such a well designed car.
Have got a mate who works for Bentley and he says they're looking at type approved tow bars with all the interest in towing for staycations this year.
We tried a Continental a bit ago but found everything had moved back in the caravan by the time we arrived on site, plus there wasn't much room for the awning on the pitch.
Excellent for pulling in front of the van and awning in high winds though.
Go for it, Range Rovers are getting a bit common anyway and the Flying Spur is nothing like a 4*4 housebrick.
Best regards
Tomo
If you're towing with a Flying Spur would defintely look for a good looking van with plenty of bling, would be a shame to put one of the normal tin sheds ion the back of such a well designed car.
Have got a mate who works for Bentley and he says they're looking at type approved tow bars with all the interest in towing for staycations this year.
We tried a Continental a bit ago but found everything had moved back in the caravan by the time we arrived on site, plus there wasn't much room for the awning on the pitch.
Excellent for pulling in front of the van and awning in high winds though.
Go for it, Range Rovers are getting a bit common anyway and the Flying Spur is nothing like a 4*4 housebrick.
Best regards
Tomo
Lutz
Sorry about that, the post of mine was utterly whimsical, I have a friends working for Bentley but I don't think Bentley will really be looking at tow bars seriously for the Flying Spur any time soon. Type approved or not.
Thought I'd just keep up the humour with which I imagined the original question was posted.
Tomo
Sorry about that, the post of mine was utterly whimsical, I have a friends working for Bentley but I don't think Bentley will really be looking at tow bars seriously for the Flying Spur any time soon. Type approved or not.
Thought I'd just keep up the humour with which I imagined the original question was posted.
Tomo
Mr Plod must be well pleased with you,must make his life a lot easie.
Do you know what speed you were doing sir? yes officer 90mph.
I praise your honesty but at that speed with a van on the back you deserve to be banned,its not you i worry about its the other people that get caught up in your stupidty.
Is this too prove a point to Shady Sadie?
Do you know what speed you were doing sir? yes officer 90mph.
I praise your honesty but at that speed with a van on the back you deserve to be banned,its not you i worry about its the other people that get caught up in your stupidty.
Is this too prove a point to Shady Sadie?
Mikey
Can't follow your thread here, where's the the speed of towing and 'plod' come in?
Why make 'plod's life easy?
Prove what point to Sadie?
Tomo
Can't follow your thread here, where's the the speed of towing and 'plod' come in?
Why make 'plod's life easy?
Prove what point to Sadie?
Tomo
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To klarky,
Whether this thread is a wind up or not, I do not think it calls for the personal vitriol you have displayed in your last post.
It has been well established in previous threads that choice of tow car is most definitely a personal matter, and if caravanner decides to use a high cost car that is their personal choice, whether we like it or not.
It is a differnt matter if a mechanically or technically inappropriate match or activity is suggested, it is right to point out any concerns we may have for the safety of personnel or property - but hopefully in non-confrontational way.
We are not in a position to make any conclusions based on facts about caravanner's financial position, or what he can or cannot afford, and even if we did have the facts it is not our position to sit in judgement about how he chooses to use his resources, just as you would be upset if he told you how to use yours.
I am sure you would not like your choice of tow car criticised purely on the perceived value of the car. - Perhaps you should have spent more?
Whether this thread is a wind up or not, I do not think it calls for the personal vitriol you have displayed in your last post.
It has been well established in previous threads that choice of tow car is most definitely a personal matter, and if caravanner decides to use a high cost car that is their personal choice, whether we like it or not.
It is a differnt matter if a mechanically or technically inappropriate match or activity is suggested, it is right to point out any concerns we may have for the safety of personnel or property - but hopefully in non-confrontational way.
We are not in a position to make any conclusions based on facts about caravanner's financial position, or what he can or cannot afford, and even if we did have the facts it is not our position to sit in judgement about how he chooses to use his resources, just as you would be upset if he told you how to use yours.
I am sure you would not like your choice of tow car criticised purely on the perceived value of the car. - Perhaps you should have spent more?
John
I really think anyone able to afford a Flying Spur would be able to buy another more suitable car for towing.
That's my basis and jolly good luck to them.
Mind you it'd brighten the day up seeing one towing.
Tomo
I really think anyone able to afford a Flying Spur would be able to buy another more suitable car for towing.
That's my basis and jolly good luck to them.
Mind you it'd brighten the day up seeing one towing.
Tomo
HI TOM
thank god for someone who is sane,yes towcars are a personal choice and rightly so____as far as the ridiculing accusation john L___IVE NEVER RIDUCULED ANYBODY IN MY LIFE FOR THEIR PERSONAL CHOICE_____this was aimed at a general audience___not an individual____anybody who sticks a tow bar on a car of this magnitude imho___is mad
"anybody who sticks a tow bar on a car of this magnitude imho___is mad"
Why? If one can afford the very best in life and still enjoyed touring and using a caravan,why would it be mad to tow with a Bentley, indeed one in that position would properly feel it was mad not to do so.....
Why? If one can afford the very best in life and still enjoyed touring and using a caravan,why would it be mad to tow with a Bentley, indeed one in that position would properly feel it was mad not to do so.....
exactly!!!_____as i said,if one can afford the very best in life they can afford the very best 2nd towcar and leave the bently for what it was meant for_____comon lets be honest here___truthfully who would use the bently to tow with__me!____not a cat in hells chance__sorry!!!!
I have been to a few shows with vintage caravans and cars.
I have seen a Bentley continental circa 1960 towing a similar dated caravan.
Now when you say use the Bentley for what it was meant for and use a more appropriate vehicle to tow,that confuses me.
There is not a single vehicle built that has a primary aim of being a caravan puller.
I agree the story of using one might be unlikely but the worlds a huge place and I have seen some what to me were strange outfits.The longer this thread goes on, the more the Bentley appeals as a mega rich mans towing vehicle.
After all I see plenty of rolls and Bentleys used for shoppers around Selfridges and Harrods, wouldn't call them ideal city cars nor are the boots that big,for holding the sort of shopping they seem to get used for...so using a Bentley for towing would actually seem a more appropriate use of its abilities than shopping in busy cities....
I have seen a Bentley continental circa 1960 towing a similar dated caravan.
Now when you say use the Bentley for what it was meant for and use a more appropriate vehicle to tow,that confuses me.
There is not a single vehicle built that has a primary aim of being a caravan puller.
I agree the story of using one might be unlikely but the worlds a huge place and I have seen some what to me were strange outfits.The longer this thread goes on, the more the Bentley appeals as a mega rich mans towing vehicle.
After all I see plenty of rolls and Bentleys used for shoppers around Selfridges and Harrods, wouldn't call them ideal city cars nor are the boots that big,for holding the sort of shopping they seem to get used for...so using a Bentley for towing would actually seem a more appropriate use of its abilities than shopping in busy cities....
i don't really see my supposed madness in my choice of car. My last range rover was an excellent towcar which I will sadly miss however since it was first launched the flying spur has been my dream car. The posts which say I should buy another car to tow, I would just like to clarify that im not made of money. Also I don't see whats so shocking about putting a towbar on the Flying spur as it is based on the same platform as the VW phaeton which many people on this forum use to tow. Also the fyling spur is a large luxury saloon similar to a top of the range mercedes S class or Lexus LS in price both of which I seen towing caravans.I mean fair enough if I suggested towing with a ferrari that I would be mocked, but the Flying is some sports car its just a fast luxury saloon in the same sense as the mercedes S55 amg
Lutz may be able to answer this.
Just out of interest I wondered what a Tow Bar manufacturer does to get Type Approval. I imagine there is some cost involved, so how many bars would they need to sell to make it worth their while on a car like a Bentley! Can't imagine that they would sell many tow hitches to Bentley owners!
Also as far as I can see, Westfalia make VW Phaeton tow bars and Witter don't. On a shared platform it would seem logical to me with Type Approval on such a limited market sector car to make a tow bar for both as I guess the fitting points would be about the same.
Witter don't seem to make a hitch for the Phaeton so it's lucky they type approve for the limited Bentley Market.
Just out of interest I wondered what a Tow Bar manufacturer does to get Type Approval. I imagine there is some cost involved, so how many bars would they need to sell to make it worth their while on a car like a Bentley! Can't imagine that they would sell many tow hitches to Bentley owners!
Also as far as I can see, Westfalia make VW Phaeton tow bars and Witter don't. On a shared platform it would seem logical to me with Type Approval on such a limited market sector car to make a tow bar for both as I guess the fitting points would be about the same.
Witter don't seem to make a hitch for the Phaeton so it's lucky they type approve for the limited Bentley Market.
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Apart from the obvious paperwork involved to obtain certification, the towbar manufacturer must demonstrate that the towbar assembly can withstand a prescribed number of cycles (I think it is 2 million) of combined oscillating horizontal and vertical loads representing dynamic conditions encountered when towing. This durability test is performed on a laboratory shaker rig.
Interesting Lutz.
So can a manufacturer base type approval on the way they build a tow bar or does each models tow bar have to go through type approval?
I can't see that any more than a hand full of Bentley Tow Bars would be sold each year. So how would a manufacturer cover type approval for production of small numbers?
Would type approval be viable for a "special order" tow bar that is not listed by Witter?
All sounds very expensive to me unless type approval costs are very different to what I thought
So can a manufacturer base type approval on the way they build a tow bar or does each models tow bar have to go through type approval?
I can't see that any more than a hand full of Bentley Tow Bars would be sold each year. So how would a manufacturer cover type approval for production of small numbers?
Would type approval be viable for a "special order" tow bar that is not listed by Witter?
All sounds very expensive to me unless type approval costs are very different to what I thought
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Each towbar assembly, i.e. each part number, must go through the full testing procedure.
Obviously for very low production volumes, the towbar manufacturer has to decide whether to distribute some of the costs for testing over other high-volume variants in order to mainatain a reasonable sales price that customers are still willing to pay. Alternatively, he may decide not to offer such a low-volume design at all. However, most car manufacturers negotiate with the towbar makers so that at least one is prepared to design and produce a suitable towbar for every car model likely to be used for towing. This is also in the interest of the car manufacturer because he must also perform tests to verify that the car's underbody or chassis is also capable of handling towing loads.
Obviously for very low production volumes, the towbar manufacturer has to decide whether to distribute some of the costs for testing over other high-volume variants in order to mainatain a reasonable sales price that customers are still willing to pay. Alternatively, he may decide not to offer such a low-volume design at all. However, most car manufacturers negotiate with the towbar makers so that at least one is prepared to design and produce a suitable towbar for every car model likely to be used for towing. This is also in the interest of the car manufacturer because he must also perform tests to verify that the car's underbody or chassis is also capable of handling towing loads.
Interested by Lutz and euro's comment's so as i was buying a towbar from a big dealer who stock Brink,Witter,Westfalia,Bosal etc and this was the reply
"I am afraid that we are not aware of any towbars produced for Bentleys since type approval of towbars became compulsory in 1998."
Very interesting reply indeed?
"I am afraid that we are not aware of any towbars produced for Bentleys since type approval of towbars became compulsory in 1998."
Very interesting reply indeed?
Oh well, what was my post leading to
A direct call by a contact in the tow bar business to Witter came up with a categorrically "NO WAY" to a Bentley Flying Spur tow bar being available even as a special order!
A direct call by a contact in the tow bar business to Witter came up with a categorrically "NO WAY" to a Bentley Flying Spur tow bar being available even as a special order!
well it would appear that from the comments on this subject that this is a wind-up, its certainly ruffled a few feathers and got a few of you on the phone doing research.
I say good on you caravanner, you like me are no doubt fed up with people using this forum to bang on about what they have !!!
I say good on you caravanner, you like me are no doubt fed up with people using this forum to bang on about what they have !!!
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