Could you provide the link to the Ofgem site please.
Is that because they can only be leased and not purchased outright? Purchased vehicles are normally registered at the regional office where the dealer is situated.
No - you can buy them direct as well as lease. Its because (like Tesla) Polestar have an online only shop, and all of their cars are registered in Oxford where they have their PDI check before being delivered by BCA (who are based in Oxford). Polestar don't have a dealer network. They have "Spaces" where you can go and look at a car and get a test drive (but not buy one except on line) and you wont get hassled by the staff to buy one because they cant sell you one. The use the Volvo dealer network for service (Which is brilliant in my experience so far).
On the contrary, while there is no exemption in place, Ofgem have issued specific guidance that states that charging EVs is not "supply", allowing Charge post providers to charge what they like without a supply licence or exemption.
No need for any link as it has been on the Ofgem site for years. Why do you think site owners can be penalsied if they sell electric to you at a profit? The Ofgem paper is interesting, but it is not legislation yet.
Thank you for the link as it has broaden my knowledge. However the catch comes in where a caravan is not a fixed premise and falls into the same category as an EV. Surely that now makes it possible for site owners to charge what they like for metered pitches whereas befroe they were restricted by legislation from making a profit on the resale of electric?
Its a good question. I assume it's this notice that allows the CMCC to charge £2 for PHEV and £8 for BEV charging a night. The specific rate is not important, its the EV that makes it legal. Maybe there is some other equivalent notice that states that a caravan (or motorhome) _is_ a premise, and as such electricity cant be charged for, except as part of the pitch fee? I have not looked. Bit of a mine field.
And indeed - here it is. https://www.ofgem.gov.uk/sites/default/files/docs/2005/10/11782-resaleupdateoct05_3.pdf. You can charge for a pitch with an electricity feed differently from one without a feed, but the feed is on an "all inclusive" basis. I.e. It cant be metered. However charging an EV is not deemed supply (as per the other notice) so can be charged for on a "charge what you like" basis - with or without a meter. Hence the £2 and £8 model.
That is a flat rate for being able to use the bollard so does not fall under any current legislation and they can charge what they like. You are correct about it being a minefield and I think there is probably a lot more to come.
I think that your understanding of the supply to electric charging points is wrong. It’s not classed as supply in the sense of electric to tenancies, touring pitches etc.
Thanks for that explanation - I suspect that more brands will go this way in future.
I worked in utilities specifically electric and did many new installations for caravan sites, businesses and domestic premises.
Thanks I guess it’s the EV or PHEV hooked up on the end. Meeting would be fairer as it would allow those who charge the car infrequently during their stay not to have a per diem rate imposed. It would also catch those who heat the awnings, run heating unnecessarily or run aircon etc.I worked in utilities specifically electric and did many new installations for caravan sites, businesses and domestic premises.
I like to think that I still have a reasonable knowledge of how things happen on a site however this does not include charging points for electric vehicles.
My understanding is that a modern air cn uses no more power than the hot water boiler in a caravan and probably less as we have had the aircon running on 6amp sites in Spain and we could still use the kettle without it tripping as we had a load monitor as standard. However fridge and heating was on gas.
We’ve been with BG for a long while and although I look around for alternative suppliers I find that one may be cheaper for a while and then it’s follow my leader. But the ones I looked at were the major utilities not some of the smaller start ups. We’ve been in various BG fixed or capped tariffs and have then moved to cheaper ones after a period without penalty as we stay with BG.
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I just hope the runway is long enough and we can reach V2 in time
I just discovered the blog entry you linked to is reproduced in the Sept CMC magazine. There is also some mention of "alternative fuelled vehicles" in the editors intro with regards to Tow Car of the Year, and a letter on the letters page from someone who tows with a Polestar 2. 🤔
Saw the letter. Nice one. When’s the article due out on your real world experience of towing with an EV?I just discovered the blog entry you linked to is reproduced in the Sept CMC magazine. There is also some mention of "alternative fuelled vehicles" in the editors intro with regards to Tow Car of the Year, and a letter on the letters page from someone who tows with a Polestar 2. 🤔
I will keep thinking about it. Not sure how you go about getting an article published. I have a trip to Borrowdale planned for this October - a good 259 miles one way, which I hope to be a 2 stop tow. If the payload allows (depends on which family members come) I will take the Polestar. I might do that as a blog.
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