Manual or Automatic ?

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A question for those with EVs please.

How slow can you reverse with an EV without any shuddering. The J word may not be PC😉
Like others have said I haven't encountered an slow speed issues with my PHEV which always moves off on electric only. However it only solo and I don't tow with the PHEV.
 
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Torque converter diesel auto.
When on cruise control, if a gear change is needed it happens without dropping out of drive like a manual does the moment you touch the clutch.

Auto is far more relaxed to drive in traffic.

Just about every new lorry is an auto now, virtually impossible to buy a manual. When I worked for a coach company in around 2018 they made a management decision to only purchase coaches with auto transmission because the maintenance costs were proven, by the industry, to be less.

No way on the planet will I ever go back to a manual. (But I woukd only consider a torque converter auto as there are no clutches etc to wear out,unlike a DSG or similar. Personal opinion of course)
 
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Torque converter diesel auto.
When on cruise control, if a gear change is needed it happens without dropping out of drive like a manual does the moment you touch the clutch.

Auto is far more relaxed to drive in traffic.

Just about every new lorry is an auto now, virtually impossible to buy a manual. When I worked for a coach company in around 2018 they made a management decision to only purchase coaches with auto transmission because the maintenance costs were proven, by the industry, to be less.

No way on the planet will I ever go back to a manual. (But I woukd only consider a torque converter auto as there are no clutches etc to wear out,unlike a DSG or similar. Personal opinion of course)
Actually Torque converter gearboxes DO have clutches.

Many years ago a friend had a Ford Corsair Auto that seemed to slip. We took it to a local specialist (an ex copper). Who diagnosed the ‘front clutch’. Repair was quick and cheap as it could be accessed through a side panel without having to remove the box.

Googling tells us they still have clutches. But they are now lock up clutches.


John
 
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Actually Torque converter gearboxes DO have clutches.

Many years ago a friend had a Ford Corsair Auto that seemed to slip. We took it to a local specialist (an ex copper). Who diagnosed the ‘front clutch’. Repair was quick and cheap as it could be accessed through a side panel without having to remove the box.

Googling tells us they still have clutches. But they are now lock up clutches.


John
I see where you are coming from John.

All auto boxes , TC or DSG contain a form of clutch , a brake band.
The TC is not a clutch as normal but a fluid flywheel assembly using hydraulics as the clutch. Once the engine is warmed up the flywheel TC assembly will lock as in a manual.
I have no wish to be pedantic but the word clutch in any auto box can mean differing things.
 
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I see where you are coming from John.

All auto boxes , TC or DSG contain a form of clutch , a brake band.
The TC is not a clutch as normal but a fluid flywheel assembly using hydraulics as the clutch. Once the engine is warmed up the flywheel TC assembly will lock as in a manual.
I have now wish to be pedantic but the word clutch in any auto box can mean differing things.
My example referred to a 1960’s car. Regarding the ‘front clutch’. It felt just like a manual with a slipping clutch. I dare say that Torque converter boxes have improved since then.

However, according to this, they have multiple clutches.

The Absence of Traditional Clutches

Unlike manual transmissions, which rely on friction-based clutches to engage and disengage gears, automatic transmissions operate without traditional clutches. Instead, they utilize multiple internal clutches and bands that are actuated hydraulically to control gear engagement and disengagement. These clutches and bands work in conjunction with the torque converter to facilitate smooth gear changes and optimize power delivery to the wheels.

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