Air pollution?

[Buckman]

In the case of transport, it is beyond doubt and certainly not a myth, that EV's are significantly more energy efficient than any form of IC engine.

If so, why do they need fossil fuel to recharge? Why do they have to mine for the rare metals and destroy the environment. Are the batteries made in the UK so no need to ship them from the other side of the world? Total myth that EVs are environmentally friendly!

 

[otherclive]

If so, why do they need fossil fuel to recharge? Why do they have to mine for the rare metals and destroy the environment. Are the batteries made in the UK so no need to ship them from the other side of the world? Total myth that EVs are environmentally friendly!

Doesn’t your Lexus hybrid have a propulsion battery, and how did the car get from Japan to Britain, and doesn’t the production of petrol and diesel affect the environment in areas around the world? Currently at this time over 50% of energy generation in Britain is renewable and clean. So I guess cars are benefiting from it.

 

[Dustydog]

They always say think outside the box😉

I have no wish to be insensitive to others wishes but in the spirit if this thread the following is a bit of an eye opener. Time for more Cemeteries perhaps 🤔

One cremation is estimated to produce 535 lbs of CO2. This is the equivalent of a 609 mile car journey in an average sized car. The combustion of fossil fuels also causes the emission of carbon monoxide, nitrogen oxides and sulfur dioxide. Other noxious substances emitted include fine soot and mercury.

 

[otherclive]

Crikey and I’ve got five sets of dog’s ashes to scatter before I pop off. But the garden soils weren’t deep enough for burials.

I’m down for a natural burial with minimum attendance and a Piper playing “The Black Bear” as the attendees make their way back to their cars and on to the pub.

 

[Hutch]

Isn't a hybrid different to an EV?

You really haven't done your research, before buying this Lexus then.
I hope it's not a PHEV.

 

[otherclive]

Isn't a hybrid different to an EV?

???? 😱

 

[Dustydog]

Crikey and I’ve got five sets of dog’s ashes to scatter before I pop off. But the garden soils weren’t deep enough for burials.

I’m down for a natural burial with minimum attendance and a Piper playing “The Black Bear” as the attendees make their way back to their cars and on to the pub.

“Stairway To Heaven” going hot😉 Ashes with the three dogs in our secret place in the woods.

 

[otherclive]

“Stairway To Heaven” going hot😉 Ashes with the three dogs in our secret place in the woods.

My wife might say “ dont pre judge the destination”. 🪽 or 👹

 

[Dustydog]

My wife might say “ dont pre judge the destination”. 🪽 or 👹

I did say “hot”👍

 

[ProfJohnL]

If so, why do they need fossil fuel to recharge? Why do they have to mine for the rare metals and destroy the environment. Are the batteries made in the UK so no need to ship them from the other side of the world? Total myth that EVs are environmentally friendly!

EV's do not "need" fossil fuels to recharge, they use electricity regardless of how its generated. The mix of fuels used to generate electricity is not dictated by the use of an EV. I could argue that all EV's use renewables, and its all the other purposes we use electricity for that cause the generators to switch on extra generation capacity which might use fossil fuel.

The vast majority of cars (EV and ICE) sold in the UK are imported, so the source country of batteries is no more contentious than all other parts of our cars.

If we consider the total environmental impact of building and running EV's and ICE vehicle across the full lifetime of the vehicles, EVs may have a larger manufacturing impact than ICE, but the running the pollution balance quickly changes, as ICE produce not only tail pipe emissions, but you have the continual destruction of oil reserves, and the cost of finding, extracting, storing, transporting, refining, delivering refined product, the cost of maintaining service stations, and the power they use throughout the lifetime of the vehicle which vastly outstrip the costs of delivering electricity to homes or charge points for EV's.